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"Treatment begins with admitting you have a problem."


If you think going to jail (hitting bottom) and NO MEDS, NO COUNSELING = a schizophrenic doing fine>>>You are deluding yourself. Obviously, your niece was misdiagnosed as a schizophrenic, or you misunderstood. Ummmm, maybe "schizoaffective disorder?"

Alot of people confuse "psychosis," with schizophrenia. A person can be "psychotic," without being a schizophrenic. This is most often temporary (such as in drug use-abuse cases), sleep-deprived psychosis, etc..........



Psychosis is a psychiatric condition that causes a person to lose his or her sense of reality. People with psychosis have hallucinations, delusions, or disorganized thinking that cause them to lose touch with reality. Someone who is psychotic may hear voices that no one else can hear, or perceive threats that are not real. Psychosis can be very disturbing when it happens to someone you know and care about. The person might not acknowledge that anything is wrong, and may resist efforts to help.
Causes

An array of medical and psychiatric problems can cause psychosis. Psychosis can result from a variety of psychiatric and medical problems. When psychosis stems from a mental illness, it is best handled by a psychiatrist. However, a family doctor or neurologist can manage cases of psychosis that are triggered by an underlying medical problem.
Drug and alcohol use and withdrawal have been linked to psychotic episodes. Symptoms that are drug— or alcohol—induced sometimes fade after the intoxicating effect of the substance has worn off.
Physical illnesses that interfere with brain function may cause psychosis as well. Psychosis is associated with infections, brain tumors, metabolic abnormalities, nutritional deficiencies, and dementia.
Psychiatric illnesses, most commonly schizophrenia, frequently lead to psychosis. Delusional disorder, marked by unshakable false beliefs, is another psychotic condition. Psychosis sometimes accompanies affective disorders such as depression and bipolar disorder (manic depression). In such cases, the symptoms tend to conform to the patient’s mood. For example, depressed patients may hear voices telling them to end their life. Bipolar patients in the throes of the illness’s extreme highs may believe they can fly or perform other superhuman feats.
Finally, a stressful event — such as witnessing a violent act or being sexually abused — can produce psychotic symptoms

Some causes of psychosis.........
Cause Comments
Drugs and alcohol The use or withdrawal of drugs and alcohol can cause intense visual hallucinations and confusion. Symptoms usually come on suddenly and may disappear once the intoxicating effect of the substance has worn off.
Physical illness AIDS, encephalitis, brain tumors, dementia, metabolic problems, and nutritional deficiencies sometimes bring on visual hallucinations and fragmented delusions.
Schizophrenic disorders Schizophrenia (psychotic behavior that lasts for at least 6 months) and schizophreniform disorder (psychotic behavior that lasts for less than 6 months) typically cause auditory hallucinations. Delusions tend to be well?formed and may be elaborate. The ability to socialize and function typically becomes impaired.
Affective disorders Bipolar disorder and depression can have psychotic manifestations that reflect the patient?s mood: delusions of grandeur during mania and delusions of worthlessness during depression.
Paranoid states Delusional disorders might make people who are otherwise mentally sound have false beliefs that are paranoid in nature. For example, patients may believe the FBI is watching them or that someone is out to get them.
Reaction to severe stress Psychotic symptoms sometimes arise after a major life stress, such as a pregnancy or a death in the family. Postpartum psychosis usually occurs a month after giving birth. Being subjected to violence also can trigger psychosis.
I lived with it for ten years and now please do not insult my intelligence. My sister is an RN in charge of a whole wing in SW Wa. med center in Vancouver Wa. and was very inept at understanding what my nieces' doctors were saying and was very clear in explaining it to me.

She actually had other disorders also that that complimented her schizophrenia. We as a family supported her and when she bucked the law she paid the price and it was during her stay that she defeated her illness. Now how or why or who did it I really do not care but this I do know is that she did have it and now she does not. It is curable. You should explore the spiritual aspect of your sons illness. Putting your faith in drugs is a poor treatment choice and a last resort that leads to more drugs and so on and so on...
 
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I would never say , even if I thought it, but I would say, "you don't know what you are talking about!" I have worked psych for over 30 years, and I have yet to see a schizophrenic recover to the point he-she could be off meds, off counseling, and "doing fine," simply by spending a few years in the joint. If it were that simple, many prisoners would be "cured schizophrenics."

Schizophrenics "hit bottom," over and over again.............
 
Rare does not mean impossible. And drug abuse is a side effect of a mental disorder usually. Is doing drugs a rational choice? I am positive that the doctors said it was schizophrenia.
You sure this wasnt a drug problem? Cause that's what you are describing. Mental illness is not a choice and people who are mentally ill cannot make rational choices most of the time. You do realize that recovery from scizophrenia (at least in the US) is very, very rare?
 
Sourland, would not suggesting someone being banned for an opinion be the same intolerance as the reason those cops felt to justify their behavior towards someone who disagreed with them?
What part of people should monitor themselves didn't you get. Please don't misinterpret my words.
 
I lived with it for ten years and now please do not insult my intelligence. My sister is an RN in charge of a whole wing in SW Wa. med center in Vancouver Wa. and was very inept at understanding what my nieces' doctors were saying and was very clear in explaining it to me.

She actually had other disorders also that that complimented her schizophrenia. We as a family supported her and when she bucked the law she paid the price and it was during her stay that she defeated her illness. Now how or why or who did it I really do not care but this I do know is that she did have it and now she does not. It is curable. You should explore the spiritual aspect of your sons illness. Putting your faith in drugs is a poor treatment choice and a last resort that leads to more drugs and so on and so on...

How wonderful for your niece that she was one of the rare few who can recover from such a debilitating illness. Sadly schizophrenia does not affect all people the same way and most are not able to recover completely. Most are lucky if medications have any effect at all, and if they can remember or know to take them (say if they have trouble with reality). What few know is that even medications are not a "cure" or even that effective. While I think it is wonderful that your family had a success story, the stats show that schizophrenia is a lifelong disorder for most diagnosed with it, so we need to come up with better options for treatment than leaving them to their own devices so they end up on the street or in prison.
 
Well now you have and whether you choose to believe it or not is your choice. Maybe your son is misdiagnosed? oh wait that may sound too callous maybe the doctors have not correctly identified the problem. I do not pretend to understand the technical aspects of schizophrenia but I am a good listener.

I also know a woman who had an enlarged heart and died in an ambulance on the way to the hospital and now her heart is normal size and doing fine. She has spinabifida (sp?) and her chest cavity was shrinking to the point she was dying and her heart returned to normal size as proven by before and after X-rays.
I would never say , even if I thought it, but I would say, "you don't know what you are talking about!" I have worked psych for over 30 years, and I have yet to see a schizophrenic recover to the point he-she could be off meds, off counseling, and "doing fine," simply by spending a few years in the joint. If it were that simple, many prisoners would be "cured schizophrenics."

Schizophrenics "hit bottom," over and over again.............
 
LOL!!!! Okay, I may not know all about schizophrenia, but I do know that its a MENTAL disease where you can't tell whats real or not. How, in the world, is someone like that going to be able to admit they have a problem? He wasnt addicted to drugs, or smoking, he had a MENTAL disease that affected him so he didn't know if it was okay to get help or not, so he was homeless. Even if he understood how to admit he had a problem, who knew if he would even take the medicine?
Well, someone finally got my point... but people on here expect the cops to know this and more. Kathinmo missed it entirely.
 
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