my house pullet is sinking down, walking backwards- help

[nok13]

i just noticed this today but could have started already a day or so ago; my folks are here from overseas so we are out a lot, and husband doesnt pay as much attention to details....
we had a young chick of his thai chicks , also raised in the house, stumbling and falling, but seems recovered now... eating same food,
i thought maybe newpaper floor. so put dirt from outdoor chickens in their box..
thought poison but all the babies and others are fine...
thinking maybe food? vitamin lack? she pecks at food if i offer it. her crop is full (maybe not emptying?)
but her feet seem, floppy. when iextend them, she draws them back to her, wierd...i was just getting attched to her ...
if she were a goat i would say niacin deficiency but ? i offerred her some hard boiled egg, thinking to offer her bio yougurt (probiotic type yougurt we have here).
no vet tomorrow its shabbat and anyhow i dont have the money, all others seem healthy so not full poison, not disease, stumped... she's a cochin/pekin bantam. her brothers are big and healthy, she is a bit younger and smaller then them. they are outdoors, ive kept her indoors.. any ideas? have no animal nor human antibiotics here, only human female oriented multi vitamin... should i give her e small amount?

 

[seminolewind]

How old are they? The symptoms could mean several things. Get some chicken vitamins esp B vitamins. It could be that, I don't know what else.

 

[nok13]

there is no such thing here. so i ground up a sublingual b12 vitamin and mixed some in water but i dont have access to the other b types they are prescription only for animals and u have to buy enough for 2000 chickens.
i am collecting worms and stuff for her to eat... she is fully feathered at this point, but still very young... ill try to see if there are any pregnant women that i know here that would have folic acid b vitamin supps.
doesnt seem too good though. she wants to eat, just goes backwards or flips sideways.
will go and collect more bugs for her. yesterday she ate a scrambled egg, but woudnt eat a raw egg mixed with her food (i want her toget moisture. am willing to try cat food, most folks here give dry food, and today nothing is open til nite time so will wait.).
brings back memories of sick goat kids in my house, etc...

 

[nok13]

any other ideas. she's still alive, still crawling backwards, but alert and eating if i put food in her general area. i put her crumbles in a shallow bowl of water so she is forced to drink also, and put some b12 in the water (sublingual adult pills that i have)... but the crawling/scooting backwards only hasnt changed.

i cant euthenize an animal that is interested in its surroundings and/or eating, as that means she isnt in pain, she doesnt seem stressed out either... not moulting heavily, stools fine, not constantly calling , she is in a small plastic drawer set inside my room brooder for my other chicks so she has company but not bothered, heat but not direct... and sitting on a towel for traction... vets are out of question, so any other ideas.
i tried to give her soaked 'smalldog' kibble but she's not interested. oth she wolfs down scambled egg no problem (i prefer giving moist food so she gets liquids in every chance even if she doesnt drink enough- this is important btw for any animal /child that is ill)...
i dont know really if her hip bones were broken? if so, then she wouldnt be able to scoot backwards using her legs...

 

[seminolewind]

I know what you mean about mentally with-it but handicapped. You can get vitamin/electrolyte packs real cheap from Tractor supply or online-I like twincitiespoultrysupply. If you PM me I can send you some in an envelope-not a problem.

It sounds like some kind of neuro problem, I don't know if it's permanent or not. I think that if she stops eating or drinking or loses weight anyway, I would euthanize . I know how hard it is to make the decision, and maybe think about what would be your own decision when.

 

[nok13]

hi seminole, thanx for your kind offer,thats really sweet of you, but im in israel so the mail wont arrive on time ) ...
i am still trying to find someone on the kibbutz who has b complex pills or drops;theres enough pregnant women here that someone is bound to have some...just have to get ahold of one of them... it wouldnt be the first time that someone asks for human meds in order to give them ot a pet

mean time, yeah, ive raised animals for 10-15 years already including working with a vet / i personally euthenized only two young very very sick animals but had my large animal vet put down my fave buck after very long illness, and one of my favorite goat kids when she had paralysis from an incorrectly injected goverment required set of vaccines , in her neck, he hit a nerve and she never improved.

im starting to give her a bit of yogurt also, although she isnt interested really. i dont see imporvement, nor do i see her getting worse, so i guess illmaintain her for the moment...
wierd why she wants to eat voluntarily but doesnt approach the water, i have to put some food inthe water for her to peck at...
definately seems neurological just i dont understand why hte thai chicks dont have symptoms. is there a difference indiet needs among the different species of chickens/?

 

[seminolewind]

You can also try some children's vits, the tasty ones and mash a piece up in some wet chick mash.

 

[nok13]

so i went to the local pharmacy and bought b1 b1 b12 complex; only 20 shekels for 6 pills, adult strenght, so i will try mashing a quarter of one in her food (eggs) each day... i ownder if she doesnt have irreversible damage... a few years ago in israel there was a big scandal about exactly these components that were missing in remedia baby formula and several infants died or sufferred irreversible brain damage because of this. in goats its reversible usually... hope chcikens are the same. had many eye brows lifted when i mentioned it was for a chicken, let alone a chicken in my house...

 

[seminolewind]

I'm glad you got the vitamins. You are right to question feed, seems medicated feed blocks the thiamine from the chick. There are also mold spores. Hope things get better.