My loss and refortification story

Cami0488

Chirping
Aug 17, 2017
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Naples, Florida
I lost my first flock and learned my lesson. I am using an old dog kennel as a chicken coop/run enclosure. I foolishly left a flimsy area of the 10x6' coop open and easy for predators to enter. Go figure, only two days of being in their coop, 2/6 chicks went missing and the other 4 were left dead.

1 was stashed in the corner, fully intact, 2 were left fully intact dead inside the coop, and the last one was at the gate decapitated. What kind of predator does that sound like to you?

So I set up a trap...

I put a fresh fish I caught to use as shark bait and dog food into a small varmint trap. The next day i found an opossum in it. Not sure if he was the mass murderer but I got rid of him anyways. So I got myself some new chicks, and kept them in my garage while I spent the last three weeks inspecting and repairing every last nook and cranny of my coop.

I finished, and so this last week I set up my trap with bait left it to see if it was disturbed. I tried with bait left just outside the coop - Disturbed. Then with bait in the coop gate locked - not disturbed. Bait with gate open - ravaged. So one last time I put a fresh fish, honey, and dog food with the Gate locked, and it was left completely untouched (except by ants). So after a good weeks worth of testing with fresh bait, it seems as though nothing can get inside my coop.

For a list of revisions I:
- Re dug and affixed my 1.5ft width pressure treated plank directly into the ground with the lip hugging the perimeter of the enclosure.
- 2ft off the ground hugging the entire perimerter is 1/2" hardwire cloth. The cloth was safety wire tightened every 6 inches for no give way.
- the small surrounding openings where the nesting box is was also safety wired. There is no give.
- the swing door was covered and sealed with a hardware cloth, openings above the 2ft high cloth surrounding the perimeter of the coop are no bigger than a chain link fence hole.
- roof is chain link secured with fencing wire tied every other chain link. No give.
- inside the enclosure the chicken coop itself has had the entrance closed with a sliding door.
- all window openings of the coop are secured with hardwire cloth.

And yet....
It's 1am midnight and I pulled the shotgun out the safe, loaded it up, put some shoes on, threw in some hearing protection and a flash light, and walked out there looking for something. All I saw were my 3 little chickens asleep on the roost.

Every shred of doubt over any area of weakness I have made a point to strengthen. The person I bought the chicks from live down the road and told me we have no weasels. So I shouldn't worry about the fence. But I still worry about those sneaky little coons.

Hopefully tomorrow morning I wake up and see them alive...

Your thoughts and opinions on all this is appreciated. And thanks for reading!
 
You live and learn........learn what it takes to keep them safe. Sometimes a long journey of discovery as what it takes to keep them safe from all harm is a lot more than most realize. But get it right and the birds will be safe. Get it right and nobody gets in.

Your predator sounds to me like coons. Leave the trap up......bait it with dry cat food. If it is coons, the dog proof traps are far more effective at catching them than live traps and you can get 2 or 3 of the DP's for the same price as a live trap.

Also, if you can get your hands on one, a game camera is invaluable to find out what is lurking in the dark (and when).

Lastly, when advice is needed, it helps to post photographs of the coop and setup. Photos being far more helpful to see the weak spots than written words.
 
I lost my first flock and learned my lesson. I am using an old dog kennel as a chicken coop/run enclosure. I foolishly left a flimsy area of the 10x6' coop open and easy for predators to enter. Go figure, only two days of being in their coop, 2/6 chicks went missing and the other 4 were left dead.

1 was stashed in the corner, fully intact, 2 were left fully intact dead inside the coop, and the last one was at the gate decapitated. What kind of predator does that sound like to you?

So I set up a trap...

I put a fresh fish I caught to use as shark bait and dog food into a small varmint trap. The next day i found an opossum in it. Not sure if he was the mass murderer but I got rid of him anyways. So I got myself some new chicks, and kept them in my garage while I spent the last three weeks inspecting and repairing every last nook and cranny of my coop.

I finished, and so this last week I set up my trap with bait left it to see if it was disturbed. I tried with bait left just outside the coop - Disturbed. Then with bait in the coop gate locked - not disturbed. Bait with gate open - ravaged. So one last time I put a fresh fish, honey, and dog food with the Gate locked, and it was left completely untouched (except by ants). So after a good weeks worth of testing with fresh bait, it seems as though nothing can get inside my coop.

For a list of revisions I:
- Re dug and affixed my 1.5ft width pressure treated plank directly into the ground with the lip hugging the perimeter of the enclosure.
- 2ft off the ground hugging the entire perimerter is 1/2" hardwire cloth. The cloth was safety wire tightened every 6 inches for no give way.
- the small surrounding openings where the nesting box is was also safety wired. There is no give.
- the swing door was covered and sealed with a hardware cloth, openings above the 2ft high cloth surrounding the perimeter of the coop are no bigger than a chain link fence hole.
- roof is chain link secured with fencing wire tied every other chain link. No give.
- inside the enclosure the chicken coop itself has had the entrance closed with a sliding door.
- all window openings of the coop are secured with hardwire cloth.

And yet....
It's 1am midnight and I pulled the shotgun out the safe, loaded it up, put some shoes on, threw in some hearing protection and a flash light, and walked out there looking for something. All I saw were my 3 little chickens asleep on the roost.

Every shred of doubt over any area of weakness I have made a point to strengthen. The person I bought the chicks from live down the road and told me we have no weasels. So I shouldn't worry about the fence. But I still worry about those sneaky little coons.

Hopefully tomorrow morning I wake up and see them alive...

Your thoughts and opinions on all this is appreciated. And thanks for reading!
Sounds like you have a similar setup to mine by using a 6x10 dog kennel. My kennel is covered and I used chicken wire to close up any gaps. The kennel butts up to the coop which is a converted shed.

My main predator is raccoons and based on your description, I'd say that's what it was that got yours. I've only lost one hen to a raccoon and I don't plan to lose any more. I've trapped 4 so far this year but I know there are more. I've seen them on my camera which records based on motion. The coons won't go into my live trap any more so I bought the dog-proof traps. They just arrived so I plan to set them for the first time tonight. A lot of folks on this site swear by them.

I've lost one hen to an unknown predator in the middle of the day. Feathers everywhere. I'm guessing it was a bird-of-prey of some kind but when I free-range, it's always a risk. With birds-of-prey, I could lose my cats too but haven't experienced that yet.

I have the Arlo camera setup which is wireless and it uses my home Wifi. The coop is about 100 feet from my house but the camera is still able to connect to my router. I bought the Arlo setup for home security but the cameras are easily moved to whatever location you want to monitor. I've seen coyote, possum, stray cats, and raccoons around my pen so that's what I have to attempt to trap. I know there are skunks too since the smell wakes me up in the middle of the night and I have to close up the house...
 
Sounds like you have a similar setup to mine by using a 6x10 dog kennel. My kennel is covered and I used chicken wire to close up any gaps. The kennel butts up to the coop which is a converted shed.

My main predator is raccoons and based on your description, I'd say that's what it was that got yours. I've only lost one hen to a raccoon and I don't plan to lose any more. I've trapped 4 so far this year but I know there are more. I've seen them on my camera which records based on motion. The coons won't go into my live trap any more so I bought the dog-proof traps. They just arrived so I plan to set them for the first time tonight. A lot of folks on this site swear by them.

I've lost one hen to an unknown predator in the middle of the day. Feathers everywhere. I'm guessing it was a bird-of-prey of some kind but when I free-range, it's always a risk. With birds-of-prey, I could lose my cats too but haven't experienced that yet.

I have the Arlo camera setup which is wireless and it uses my home Wifi. The coop is about 100 feet from my house but the camera is still able to connect to my router. I bought the Arlo setup for home security but the cameras are easily moved to whatever location you want to monitor. I've seen coyote, possum, stray cats, and raccoons around my pen so that's what I have to attempt to trap. I know there are skunks too since the smell wakes me up in the middle of the night and I have to close up the house...

Wow, we have almost the same set up. My coop is but up against my shed too. I also have cameras around the house for security. They are all wired through the roof though. I was thinking of adding a PtZ aimed primarily at the direction of the coop so that I can watch it in the night. It too, alerts me when there is movement. Very similar situations.

My ultimate concern was weather or not a racoon can get through the width of a standard chain link. I know its not weasel proof, but I mentioned earlier my brother in law who's a pest eliminator says we don't have weasels in the area. But yeah it was either the racoon or the opossum I already caught.
 
My run is chain link. We have huge and small raccoons here. So far so good. 4 years running and the only breach was a squirrel (that my chickens ate) :sick and mice.

In the fall when I close the big windows there are coon prints on them. My windows open to be flat under the runs wire top. Hard to describe. :hmm

Your predator sounds like a coon to me too.
I would keep the trap set and make sure to lock them in the coop every night without fail.
 

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