names used for quail carrying white feathers

[phil666]

I have a question about names used in the Coturnix quail circles ,quite simple really,if a quail carries white feathers on a self coloured body i.e.Italian with a white front or say a Pharaoh with white wings,ect is it a Pied in simple terms.

 

[dc3085]

We do not have a concrete color name system, just a popular color name system. If a bird is possessed of white feathers along with a primary coloration, we usually refer to those birds as tuxedos. Rosetta tux, golden tux, etc. Pied doesn't really describe the colors well because the next generation of tuxedo birds can easily have more white or less white to varying degrees, added through breeding selection. I hope this makes some sense. Also a rosetta's natural feathering could be described as pied for its secondary patterning on the feathers, so pied is sort of a square peg for our round hole.

 

[James the Bald]

Here is a link to a site which has their quail categorized.
James

 

[phil666]

Thanks for the link,i have viewed it often before,very helpful and thanks for your input,i come from a cage bird background and used the term Pied on a daily basis,ie the base colour first followed by the term Pied,normal pied,silver pied gold pied and so on,where the term tuxedo came from i presume the pattern that looked like a tuxedo was fixed and bred for ,so really they are all the same thing ,its the chosen terminology within the quail world that i have to get use to,Thanks again.

 

[dc3085]

Thanks for the link,i have viewed it often before,very helpful and thanks for your input,i come from a cage bird background and used the term Pied on a daily basis,ie the base colour first followed by the term Pied,normal pied,silver pied gold pied and so on,where the term tuxedo came from i presume the pattern that looked like a tuxedo was fixed and bred for ,so really they are all the same thing ,its the chosen terminology within the quail world that i have to get use to,Thanks again.

If you cross a rosetta with a white coturnix, then cross the offspring with a white coturnix again, you'll see why tuxedo stuck as a name. It looks like they have a white collar and cuffs showing from under a dark jacket.

 

[phil666]

yes i understand why the correctly pattern tuxedo's were named so are quail that don't have the collar and cuffs pattern just referred to as badly marked tuxedo's,or do breeders give them there own names as in the link above if they get the pattern to breed true.