need advice Sebbie egg hatching ?

[loprettaerin]

i have 2 sebbie eggs on day 30 today. up till I got home tonight they looked all ok just late. Tonight I went in and could here 1 peaping at me but when I put a small whole were the air sack was there was little space. I have slowly peeled a larger whole and have not found out were its bill is? I have candled it with not luck. Should I con't to peel away more shell till I find it being carfull not make it bleed or give it some more time. My other egg has not pipped yet either although it still has a large air sack and looks to be in hatching postion and alive just not pipped yet. I so want these to hatch any advice would be great maybe Im being over peranoid because I want them so bad but maybe not. My gut and experience says it has turned and is trying to pip at wrong end but unsure.

 

[Iain Utah]

You heard peeping. You candled fat end of egg, found a small air cell, but no evidence that it had internally pipped?
Then you candled your 2nd egg and from candling determined it has not internally pipped?

Can you take pics?

 

[loprettaerin]

yes have yet to see any internal pip. yes candled fat end just like any other egg. The space was less then 1mm inbetween wall of the egg. I will candle it I can here the peeping from what sounds like other end of the egg but unsure right left or middle or how far back. I will try and take pictures never have tried when candling a eggs before.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Opening an egg on the fat end will cause shrink wrap if you keep messing with the egg.

If you could hear peeping, why did you open the fat end up? They can take 3 days to hatch from first step to last, so opening the eggs at the first peeping you could hear is rushing the hatch process along.

If one or both are turned the wrong way, you are looking at a rough hatch.

How much hatching experience do you have before these Sebastopol eggs?

 

[loprettaerin]

yes have yet to see any internal pip. yes candled fat end just like any other egg. The space was less then 1mm inbetween wall of the egg. I will candle it I can here the peeping from what sounds like other end of the egg but unsure right left or middle or how far back. I will try and take pictures never have tried when candling a eggs before.

went to take a picture and saw a indication as to were it had pipped at. it pipped interally unside down on the correct side but good thing I still opend it up or it would have been dead soon since no air sack for it to breath. Here is a picture of it know. So happy Im not out of the woods on it but much better chance know.

 

[loprettaerin]

Opening an egg on the fat end will cause shrink wrap if you keep messing with the egg.
If you could hear peeping, why did you open the fat end up? They can take 3 days to hatch from first step to last, so opening the eggs at the first peeping you could hear is rushing the hatch process along.
If one or both are turned the wrong way, you are looking at a rough hatch.
How much hatching experience do you have before these Sebastopol eggs?

The reason I opened it was because when I candled it I could tell there was a issue going on with it. I do not regret opening it since there was NO AIR CELL for it to have enough oxygen to breath for any length of time. From my own experience with hatching about 1000 - 2000 chicken and duck eggs each year. yes first time with geese/ sebbies. Im almost sorry I even asked for any advice should have just went with my own experience with hatching other eggs and not bothered even asking. I understand some do not agree with assisting when needed and yes you can have bad luck with it and some times it is just what is needed. yes some times they make it and sometimes they were never ment to make it.

This is why many do not ask question. Maybe you didn't mean it in a mean way but that is just how it comes across to me.

 

[Iain Utah]

Lopretta it is upside down? I cannot tell from the pics. Is that the air cell pencil line on the opposite end of opened egg? If you have hatched duck eggs, then you know what to do. It is no different when it comes to assisting and following your instinct that something is not right.

 

[loprettaerin]

Lopretta it is upside down? I cannot tell from the pics. Is that the air cell pencil line on the opposite end of opened egg? If you have hatched duck eggs, then you know what to do. It is no different when it comes to assisting and following your instinct that something is not right.

No, no penciling on opposite end of the egg. I have X and O on each side but to me I think it is just way I took picture it kind of made a shadow I had flash off also. The baby had pipped upside down so I have it right side up know. It is breathing ok and chilling and wiggling. I wish I took a picture of it when I candled it before opening it, I was just thinking I needed to act fast before I lost it. Im glad I did hopfully in 1 or 2 days I will have pictures of it completly out.

 

[Iain Utah]

So I am seeing the beak top side up on top right side of egg. This is after you turned egg right side up. And based on you peeling pattern you entered top of fat end air dip side up and worked your way down? If so, excellent job.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Lop, I asked your experience because there has been a rash of first time hatchers doing waterfowl and ripping into eggs not knowing anything about hatches.

Did this gosling pip at the fat end or narrow end of the egg. It is unclear from your description as you said upside down. Upside down refers to hatching out of the pointy end, so that's why the confusion on where your goslings is facing.

Be sure to keep gauze around and on the membrane to keep it moist so the gosling doesn't get stuck to it. Tall bowls of hot water will help boost humidity quickly inside to help the membrane too.

Has the second egg internally pipped yet?


Don't take my responses the wrong way, I am clinical and fact/detailed with responses to situations like this. I also won't offer advice to someone to help who has never hatched before. I asked your hatch experience for a reason, to know what answers to give back. As I stated above, I won't tell a first time hatcher to help. Have read too many times someone who was hatching for the first time and "helped" only ripping into an egg and killing hatchlings. Panic tends to take over inexperienced hatchers, creating larger problems.


I have helped when needed, but do so in as small a way as possible. There are too many doing too much too soon. The posts all seem to start with, "help I opened the fat end of the egg and can't find the bill! "

If your second has internally pipped now they should both hatch about the same time. The second you create any hole in the shell, even what is called the rescue hole to give extra air it slows the hatch process down. So plan for extra time on the hatch of the first you opened so it could breath. It can be a 12-24 hour change in hatching from it would have had everything gone right without help.

Oh and paper towels dry out quickly and wick moisture away from the egg, gauze works better, cotton rounds for make up with a vet wrap covering.