You got a deal for the money spent in many ways and learned a thing or two about contracting a job. So i wouldn't classify it as a really bad experience.
Need an opinion - should I fire this guy or am I asking too much?
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JustAChickenLittle&More
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I have to agree with a lot of the other people. These types of jobs are very expensive, so if you got off under $2500.00 I would be happy. Especially in the florida area. I used to live there, and I also knew a concrete person who did patterned concrete. This job would have costed way more than $2500.00
I don't know what type of experience he had, but it looks pretty good to me. Especially for the money.
I don't know what type of experience he had, but it looks pretty good to me. Especially for the money.
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It looks good but like our roads(that are recovered yearly) it might not last the freeze/thaw/rain. The hourly thing is going to get you.I have a relative that does contractor work,but he bids a price to do the complete job,and then takes FOREVER to complete if he even bothers to complete.
If I were in your situation I might pay for another day or two.Depends how much you need done.Or I might tell him you have run out of money,and he need not come back at this time. You say it is only a little bit,but needs a lot of cutting.Tell him you need a set price to complete what is left,because you can no longer afford an hourly rate. Hopefully he will finish the job,and it will hold up for you. It doesn't look bad. Pay when it is complete. One thing I learned from my contractor relative is you don't want to pay ahead.Once some contrators have cash they never come back.
If I were in your situation I might pay for another day or two.Depends how much you need done.Or I might tell him you have run out of money,and he need not come back at this time. You say it is only a little bit,but needs a lot of cutting.Tell him you need a set price to complete what is left,because you can no longer afford an hourly rate. Hopefully he will finish the job,and it will hold up for you. It doesn't look bad. Pay when it is complete. One thing I learned from my contractor relative is you don't want to pay ahead.Once some contrators have cash they never come back.
Dang, I wish I could find someone to do that kind of work for so little money around here.
It's entirely up to you about firing him... but yeah, I think you are asking too much.
It's entirely up to you about firing him... but yeah, I think you are asking too much.
JustAChickenLittle&More :
I have to agree with a lot of the other people. These types of jobs are very expensive, so if you got off under $2500.00 I would be happy. Especially in the florida area. I used to live there, and I also knew a concrete person who did patterned concrete. This job would have costed way more than $2500.00
I don't know what type of experience he had, but it looks pretty good to me. Especially for the money.
We priced out paving our driveway, and its not huge, I just was sick of rock... would have cost $3200.
So I guess everyone is right... if you would like to pay for better quality price someone else to come in and rip it up and do it correctly... otherwise you should several good years out of that and it does look good... it really does.
PLUS... he hasn't walked off the job! That's a huge issue around here... someone gets sick of what they are doing, or another job presents itself and they just stop showing up to work and you have a half done project. HE's worked a lot of good hours... that is SUPER labor intensive. I laid my own brick path to my front door, my back regrets it! I didn't do the best job, but I did pretty good since it only cost me $50 for pea gravel, the bricks and sand were free.
I have to agree with a lot of the other people. These types of jobs are very expensive, so if you got off under $2500.00 I would be happy. Especially in the florida area. I used to live there, and I also knew a concrete person who did patterned concrete. This job would have costed way more than $2500.00
I don't know what type of experience he had, but it looks pretty good to me. Especially for the money.
We priced out paving our driveway, and its not huge, I just was sick of rock... would have cost $3200.
So I guess everyone is right... if you would like to pay for better quality price someone else to come in and rip it up and do it correctly... otherwise you should several good years out of that and it does look good... it really does.
PLUS... he hasn't walked off the job! That's a huge issue around here... someone gets sick of what they are doing, or another job presents itself and they just stop showing up to work and you have a half done project. HE's worked a lot of good hours... that is SUPER labor intensive. I laid my own brick path to my front door, my back regrets it! I didn't do the best job, but I did pretty good since it only cost me $50 for pea gravel, the bricks and sand were free.
Here, a 24x24x2 concrete paver is $3.50 each. Little crisscross design on top.
Dumptruck load of sand was $85.00 delivered. I spread.
Load of pulverized was $50.00 delivered. Again, I got to spread.
Working on a new patio in the back yard for the wife. Almost done, need
a few more pavers. (They only poor eight a day now)
Doing it myself. I would let that feller help me next time.
....I shoulda married me a strong woman....
Dumptruck load of sand was $85.00 delivered. I spread.
Load of pulverized was $50.00 delivered. Again, I got to spread.
Working on a new patio in the back yard for the wife. Almost done, need
a few more pavers. (They only poor eight a day now)
Doing it myself. I would let that feller help me next time.
....I shoulda married me a strong woman....
putting those pavers in sucks,,I wouldnt want to do it again..I also think you are getting off cheap..before you jump him about not showing up early,,ask if he has another job going on,,he may have another contract that he can only do in the AM..most of these guys,at least around here,,are actually working on several projects at different locations at the same time..
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My experience is that contractors usually get a reduced price on parts, and *usually* will pass that reduced price to their customers.
My experience is that contractors usually get a reduced price on parts, and *usually* will pass that reduced price to their customers.
Why weren't you supervising him, or did you even have a design plan in your mind? The directional transition doesn't look bad to me.
It looks like a fair amount of sq. ft. to me. Maybe not 4 days worth, but just because the material was spread, does not mean that it was flat enough to lay pavers on, especially, if you want one straight surface.
Did you or he compact the new fill, before placing the pavers? If not, don't expect them to stay in place.
The one thing, which I saw, was along the cut edge, he should have had a row of full pavers, turned perpendicular, to trap the cuts from moving.
It looks like a fair amount of sq. ft. to me. Maybe not 4 days worth, but just because the material was spread, does not mean that it was flat enough to lay pavers on, especially, if you want one straight surface.
Did you or he compact the new fill, before placing the pavers? If not, don't expect them to stay in place.
The one thing, which I saw, was along the cut edge, he should have had a row of full pavers, turned perpendicular, to trap the cuts from moving.
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Tile, pavers, Meh! Now, the reason he talked you out of flagstone is because that is alot more work. Every stone is a different thickness, and the bed must be adjusted, accordingly, if you want the top surface to be flush, and yes, that could take several days to get it right.....Set the stone, adjust the fill, reset, adjust until satisfied.
Tile, pavers, Meh! Now, the reason he talked you out of flagstone is because that is alot more work. Every stone is a different thickness, and the bed must be adjusted, accordingly, if you want the top surface to be flush, and yes, that could take several days to get it right.....Set the stone, adjust the fill, reset, adjust until satisfied.
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