need help deciding on rooster

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I have 10, 12 week old hens and want to add a rooster. I will be getting a buff orpington rooster. The lady I'm getting it from has 2 to chose from. One is only 4 weeks old and the other one is almost 2 years old but has been picked on by her other 2 roosters and he had to be seperated. I want a rooster that wont be mean towards children but will be good to the flock which should I get
 
If you know the temperament of the older one already and the lady says he's non-aggressive, go with that one. That way you know what you're getting. The four week old doesn't have hormones yet and you can't yet determine if he will be aggressive or not. Buff orps are generally very docile, but I've had an aggressive buff orp rooster before, so it does happen.
 
Your older hens may well kick the 4 week olds butt, the older roo will probably be easier to integrate.

Either of them could end up being aggressive, you won't know until it happens, good idea to have a pen ready in case you need to separate/confine him. If you have small children, having a rooster can be very risky.
 
I would get the older bird.

You can't tell the temperament of a bird until you get him home and have him there a bit. The 4 week old is too young to show his true colors, and the picked on bird may change personalities dramatically once he has a flock of his own and no other birds beating on him. That being said, you'll know within a few weeks if the older bird is a jerk and you can take him back before you get too attached to him. The young bird might not show his true personality until he's over a year old, and then if he turns out human-aggressive you'll have to cull a beloved pet.

Finally, you can just put an older rooster into the flock with no introduction period, whereas you'd have to keep a 4 week old bird completely separated from the big hens until he was 16 weeks old or so. If you put a 4 week old chick in an adult flock, they may literally peck him to death.

Others are right, roosters can be quite dangerous. Never relax your vigilance even around a "nice" rooster and never let children be alone with a rooster. Be prepared to get rid of your boy if he shows any aggression toward humans. Aggression is a heritable trait and if you hatch and keep sons from an aggressive rooster or from a hen that was bred from an aggressive rooster you are perpetuating the problem.
 
To me it’s almost a coin flip. Why you want a rooster may play into the decision.

You don’t have any way to know how either will really act as dominant rooster. The young one is just too young for the hormones to kick in as Pyxis said. But the older one is not currently in a dominant situation. The other two are obviously dominant so he does not have the responsibilities of a dominant rooster or the freedom to act out if he wants to. If he is put in with your pullets he will become dominant. You don’t know how that might change him in how he protects the flock or treats the pullets. You just can’t tell in the situation he is in whether he will be human aggressive or not.

I’s hard to know how the older one will interact with your 12 week old pullets. He will immediately be the dominant one but the pullets are still chicks. A good dominant rooster takes care of all members of his flock, so I don’t think he is likely to try to hurt them, but he will be dominant and may feel a need to show he is dominant if some of the pullets don’t accept him. He may not want to hang with a bunch of pre-teens but he probably will. They may not want to hang with him and try to keep their distance. They will probably integrate OK but there will be some interesting dynamics going on.

Another thing is that your pullets are not yet sexually mature, but aren’t far away. A good mature rooster will wait until they mature a lot more before he tries to become sexually active, but there is a kicker in this. The mating ritual is not just sexual, it is also about dominance. The one on bottom is accepting the dominance of the one on top, whether willingly or by force. It’s quite possible when they are introduced that he will mate with some just to establish his dominance. This should not hurt the pullets but it is upsetting for some people to watch and the size difference does add some risk. One way to get around his risk is to quarantine him for a month or six weeks. I don’t think this is likely to show any diseases he might have as long as the flock he is coming from is healthy and stable (no new chickens introduced for the past month) but it might. The big advantage would be that the pullets would be a lot more sexually mature and larger when they are introduced.

The older one will be much more ready to start as flock protector, looking out for danger and in general taking care of his flock. The younger cockerel will need months of maturity before he is ready to take on this role.

The older one is in the prime of his life, but in two to three years he will start to get old. His energy and sexual drive may begin to slow down. You will probably need to replace him sooner than the 4 week old if fertile eggs is one of your goals. You’ll probably need to replace your hens too about that time if eggs is your goal. They tend to start slowing down in egg production at three to four years old. Raising your own replacements may be one of your goals so this may not matter.

With your pullets 10 weeks old and the young one 4 weeks, it’s a bit risky to try to integrate them now. It can be done, especially if they have a lot of space, but watch and see how the pullets treat him. I think the time that might be hardest on you might be when the cockerel reaches puberty, say 12 to 16 weeks old. Onset of puberty for cockerels can vary but if he is the only one it is usually earlier rather than later. His hormones kick in and he wants to become sexually active. To do that he has to dominate the pullets, physically but also by maturity and personality. Some hens will squat for about anything wearing spurs but many older more mature hens expect a rooster to perform his duties of finding them food, dancing for them, protecting the flock, and keeping peace in the flock before they grant him any favors. That’s often referred to on this forum as the older hens schooling a young rooster, teaching him his manners.

The pullets will be older and probably about the same size when he hits puberty. They may not be willing to accept his dominance without a fight. There is a tendency for older hens to be kind of brutal to an immature rooster getting above his station. Again, they will work through this phase, especially if they have enough room, but it can be hard for some people to watch. If space is tight it can get rougher.

I don’t know that there is a big advantage one way or another for you. The dynamics of the integration are certainly going to be different with each choice, but at the end of the day they will work it out. In either case you might want to have an isolation pen ready in case you need to give the pullets or the cockerel more time to mature. In either case it is also possible that this will go so smoothly that you think I’m crazy to even mention these things.
 
Well I decided to go with the little rooster. My reasoning is I wanted to raise one from a young age and handle him as much as possible to hopefully make him a nice tempered roo. The older one looked rough and so I decided to pass on him. I introduced my young too last night to the hens and I put him on the roost with them and watched them for 15 min and all was good so I left. This morning at 8 I opened the coop up to the run and the hens went outside but he was hiding in a nesting box with a big bare spot on his back. I put him down on the ground and they started chasing him so he flew up to the roosting board and they left him alone, so it looks like I will be putting him in the other coop at the other end of the run so maybe by them seeing him everyday they will get used to him. Idk
 
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Well I decided to go with the little rooster. My reasoning is I wanted to raise one from a young age and handle him as much as possible to hopefully make him a nice tempered roo. The older one looked rough and so I decided to pass on him. I introduced my young roo last night to the hens and I put him on the roost with them and watched them for 15 min and all was good so I left. This morning at 8 I opened the coop up to the run and the hens went outside but he was hiding in a nesting box with a big bare spot on his back. I put him down on the ground and they started chasing him so he flew up to the roosting board and they left him alone, so it looks like I will be putting him in the other coop at the other end of the run so maybe by them seeing him everyday they will get used to him. Idk
 
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Went in to remove him the next day and they were all getting along. I have been watching them ever since and it seems that all three of my bo hens hate him and my barred rock hens have taken him in under there wing
 

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