Need help identifying a couple Roos

jteam

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I hatched these two guys from some fertile eggs a friend gave me. I suspect these guys are mixed breeds but i am just curious what everyone thinks the mixes may be. The light brown one was much prettier when he was thought to be a she. Then he was a light red colored body and very golden colored neck feathers. The black and white one has pretty much been unattractive since it was a chick. They are both average sized guys. I am 100% certain they are roos since they both started crowing and "servicing" hens in the past two weeks!







 
The second picture looks like a buff rock but i think i saw a little bit of black on his wing so i am thinking it is a crossbred.......i dont know about the others :)
 

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