Need help identifying breed

[Evermore Ranch]

I bought several breeders from a friend of mine who is having health concerns and needing to downsize.Her son was helping me catch and load these pigeons and telling me what breed was what. I have one pair that i am in question about. It is a pair shaped like a nun and he said that he thought that was what they were, but i cannot find any colored like these. and now i cannot find any photos of ones exactly like these so i am hoping you can help. They are in quarantine pens at this time and i am picking up a couple more tomorrow to separate them out more.

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

In the first picture....The pair of birds in front are Birmingham Rollers. The bird in the back-left is an Archangel, and the bird in the back-right appears to be a mix. Do some of the feathers on the neck curl around towards the face? Looks like it might be a mix between a roller and archangel, or a roller and capuchine. Or maybe a mix of the 3. I'm guessing a Capuchine mix. Does it have feathers on the feet?

 

[Evermore Ranch]

No they are no feathers on legs or feet. Colored just like the big boy (Roller) That is what we were thinking he was too. I only bought these few cause i felt bad for everyone. The birds were not able to get much sunlight and bless her heart she was trying but cancer has made it really hard. They were the only ones left other than the trumpeters that we raising a baby. She will call me when i can come get them. So we brought those 4 home too. I got 4 pair of fantails and 1 pair of jacobins plus an older female whose mate had passed. I have everyone in quarantine now while we complete the lofts. Thank you so much for your help.

 

[6chicks&aduck]

the red and white and black and white w the crests are mookies , the yellow &black archangel

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

The white cap on mookees don't go past the eye, and the only white flights they have are the last 2 primaries. They also hold their necks more bent. But they could be a mookee mix, which I didn't think of.


Since you mentioned Jacobins, that could be where that weird partial hood/mane is coming from.

 

[Evermore Ranch]

Thank you so much. Looking at online photos i do believe the main 2 in question are mookees. They are definitely a pair. She had raised show pidgeys for years and kept them separated by breed. Her son could not remember for sure that breed and thought possibly nuns but they are not colored correctly for that. We have them in their new lofts now and within only a couple days we have eggs that one fantail is sitting on. Their are 2 that were courting her and she will not let either sit on eggs. One in particular gets on them every time she gets off even if only for a moment. Then she runs him off. The rest are so happy to have room to spread their wings and fly around a bit. Since getting in the sunshine, wormed and on a good diet they are molting like crazy. They are calming down when we go into the loft and starting to get closer and closer. a few will get within reach but run if we reach for them. but we have only had them in there for about a week. I think we have most of them figured out as to male or female. But not sure why the one on the eggs will not let anyone help her.