Need Help With Symptoms I've Never Seen Before

[PoultryGirly]

I've read that you should only use one medication at once, unless the vet tells you otherwise. Also, you could check and tell for sure if the chicks have gapeworms by sticking a cotton swap down their throats. If the cotton swab has 'red strings' on it when you take it out, then your chickens positively have gapeworms.

 

[Haunted55]

I've read that you should only use one medication at once, unless the vet tells you otherwise. Also, you could check and tell for sure if the chicks have gapeworms by sticking a cotton swap down their throats. If the cotton swab has 'red strings' on it when you take it out, then your chickens positively have gapeworms.

Lol, brilliant minds think alike.....I just found a posting from Dawg53 where he describes this and how it's done. I also found something from Orono that says you can transilluminate the neck are to see them that way. We're on it. None of the other symptoms though....I'll know in a few minutes and I'll post back.

 

[Haunted55]

Used the flashlight and all I could see was the normal rosey color of any warm blooded animal. No worms, Y shape or otherwise. Visual of throat shows nothing either. I am thinking this is respiratory, but I am not going to rule out the gapes.

I am kinda between a rock and a hard place here....no Vet who will see any kind of birds anywhere near me. The closest is 2 hours away, highway. I'm on my own, unfortunately. Right now, I have to finish the dosing of the Corid, no choice. The Duramycin-10 shouldn't be an issue with Safeguard, if I remember correctly. They are on day 2 of the Corid and will need at least 3 more.

 

[Eggcessive]

Why are they on Corid? Did you start treating for cocci? I agree that I wouldn't use two drugs at the same time, but more importantly , I don't think you should mix two drugs in the same water container because drugs can have chemical interactions that may be harmful. I have read tons about IB, and it can act just like you describe. They can stretch the neck out and make a little sound like a chirp, hiccup, but actually is a sneeze/cough. IB usually affects 100% of chickens within days, and can be hard on young chicks with fatalities. Does anyone in your area have chickens from where it could have spread? I have never heard that gapeworm could spread through an egg. I would like to see that article.

 

[Eggcessive]

Unless your chicks have been on the ground, they should not have been exposed to gapeworm. It also is not transmitted through hatching eggs.

 

[Haunted55]

Why are they on Corid? Did you start treating for cocci? I agree that I wouldn't use two drugs at the same time, but more importantly , I don't think you should mix two drugs in the same water container because drugs can have chemical interactions that may be harmful. I have read tons about IB, and it can act just like you describe. They can stretch the neck out and make a little sound like a chirp, hiccup, but actually is a sneeze/cough. IB usually affects 100% of chickens within days, and can be hard on young chicks with fatalities. Does anyone in your area have chickens from where it could have spread? I have never heard that gapeworm could spread through an egg. I would like to see that article.

Cocci, yes. IB, again yes, my original flock came with that little present...TSC special, ya know? I don't think it's IB and the reason I say that is there are 60 birds in the same brooder and only 1 is showing the neck and 'caw' thing. When my flock first showed the signs of IB it was a rapid progression through all but one bird. No losses at all, thank God, but it's here now because of that. No other bird here is showing symptoms of IB, either in the chicken house or in any of the brooders I have going right now. Coccidiosis..oh yes.

http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/pou...idiosis_in_poultry.html?qt=coccidiosis&alt=sh

"Anticoccidials are given in the feed to prevent disease and the economic loss often associated with subacute infection. Prophylactic use is preferred because most of the damage occurs before signs become apparent, and because drugs cannot completely stop an outbreak. Therapeutic treatments are usually given by water because of the logistical restraints of feedadministration. Antibiotics and increased levels of vitamins A and K are sometimes used in the ration to improve rate of recovery and prevent secondary infections."

I am giving all of the new chicks the mixture as more of a 'just in case' treatment. There really are no overt signs of a respiratory outbreak, that's what has me stumped. With IB there's wheezing, clear liquid around the nostrils, sneezing and coughing in some cases. Lethergy is another. That is so not the case with this symptomatic one, lol, nor the others. I was lucky to see anything telling me it was cocci to begin with.

The second bird I put in with the affected one was, I thought, showing some of the same symptoms as the first. Not now. Since she has been removed from the group and in with this one, I am going to leave her there. Both of them are up and eating, drinking and running about. Some preening and fighting, lol. They don't act sick, but every once in a while the one will make the noise, a few times and then she is now going hours in between. No clue.