NJ Court Rules Against so-called 'Humane Practices"

[KrisRose]

A start to better factory farming pratices and a slippery slope.
However, just because a farm is small dosn't mean that they treat their animals any better then a factory farm.

 

[hooligan]

I signed the petition for this way back when this started. I am happy to see it passed. Just bc an animal is going to be used for meat does NOT mean it should not be treated humanely until the point of its passing.

 

[Reinbeau]

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I agree it is a slippery slope, but we shouldn't question industry practices, we should just let the industry (which is in it purely to make money, and we all know, the money is going to come first over good practices)? Or better yet, let's keep the consumer from knowing anything whatsoever about how the food is produced, so they blindly continue to eat the product not understanding where the industry is going wrong how food is actually nutritious as a result......

If 'the industry' should be allowed to self police, then it had better get started, because the bad practices are starting to bite them in the butt. If they were actually doing even a half-way job of policing themselves then the courts would have never gotten involved. That's the point here. So make all of your predictions, but keep in mind that it's 'the industry's' fault this is going on in the first place.

 

[Katy]

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Please indluge my questioning.

Are you saying the castration and tail docking don't hurt on a small farm, but it do on a "large factory farm"?

Decisions like this are bad for livestock production, especially any decision touted as a vicotry by the organization, ASPCA, or Farm Sanctuary.

Jim

you have a good point.. my intention for that comment was more towards. Battery cages, and downed cattle practices.

a smaller farmer is more likely to have better living conditions and better practices for downed animals. ie. they dont let it get so bad.

When I was driving to college about a 50 min drive through country, before gas went crazy. I passed by this house that had cattle.. so anyway they had this pen (about the size of a horse running pen... the kind that you stand in the middle with the horse on a lead and you get it to run in circles.) It was empty for most of the time.. anyway one time when I went by I saw that they had put a baby calf in this pen.. I figured right away that this calf was meant for viel.. now I dont eat viel let me get this strait out because of the pictures I have seen of these poor little guys put in these tiny stalls and not let to move at all.. but this little one had a bit of room.. and they even put out one of those portable shed things to give it some shade.. and I saw them out there talking to it and took really good care of this little one. I think it was about a month later it just wasnt there anymore. I assume that it was eaten.. I didnt stop to ask.. but I was so glad to see that even though they wanted viel they did it more humane than a factory farm for sure. These people live there and have their livestock with them.. Keeping their property in good conditions.

this example is what was sticking out in my mind when I posted. And the idea of if we as a "majority" of consumers pushed for these conditions. Factory farms would change, or go out of business.

I doubt that they used it for veal.. You could have seen that exact scene here on our farm over the years. It was probably an orphan calf that needed some TLC for awhile before it could go back out with the herd once it got a little older.

 

[Oblio13]

I don't think we need more laws about anything - or more bureaucrats to administer those laws. And I don't want animal-rights-types dictating to me or having the means to screw with me.

 

[tiki244]

I think it is a good thing and I really don't think that it is a slippery slope. Things just will not go that far.

Hopefully this is a start to better things to come.

 

[Oblio13]

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Famous last words.

 

[birdlover]

Just an interesting observation...where I live, just outside Washington, DC, when you go to a regular old super market, they have all kinds of eggs according to the cartons. Some say "cage free" which I know can mean not much better than battery cages but it tells me that the factory farms are becoming more aware of what consumers want. And at the more specialized stores like Whole Foods, you can buy eggs and chicken labeled "free range". Of course, you pay out the you-know-what but it tells me that MAYBE, just maybe, folks in the poultry industry are starting to "get it". At least, I hope so!!