North Carolina

[cwhittington]

me too with everything I've read it doesn't end well and survival is 1-5 years mostly my oldest baby girl is only 3 and son is 1 I dont want them growning up without her

Oh, man, definitely sending prayers your way!!

 

[cwhittington]

was the dog on your land? If so shoot it (if your not in a town)

Scott.

Scott, She was on my land and not by just a little bit but by hundreds of yards from our property lines. I've thought hard about that option, I really have, but the situation is that the dog belongs to a child who my children play with regularly who happens to have the misfortune of belonging to irresponsible pet owners. She is a sweet dog too that they have had for years, before I had chickens. I can't bring myself to put her in the crosshairs. :/

 

[farmraised86]

Oh, man, definitely sending prayers your way!!

thanks

 

[ramirezframing]

Quote: Have you called animal control on the owners?

 

[farmraised86]

Have you called animal control on the owners?

I had a pack of nine dogs trying to kill my goats and I don't have a gun but I did have a knife and only 8 left my yard people say a knife is animal cruelty but I think its more cruel to let your animal get ripped apart and do nothing I called animal control and they don't pick up stray dogs anymore the sanford PD has a unit for that now and the head guy told me disbatch them as I see fit though he wouldn't recomend jumping into a pack of wild dogs with only a knife but he's not me

 

[jtbass2756]

I had a pack of nine dogs trying to kill my goats and I don't have a gun but I did have a knife and only 8 left my yard people say a knife is animal cruelty but I think its more cruel to let your animal get ripped apart and do nothing I called animal control and they don't pick up stray dogs anymore the sanford PD has a unit for that now and the head guy told me disbatch them as I see fit though he wouldn't recomend jumping into a pack of wild dogs with only a knife but he's not me

Get you a gun! Sounds like the PD is telling you to get it done! I would !

 

[Hollowoakfarm]

Since Levi has already killed a number of birds, no matter how much training he gets, I would Never trust him with livestock. He'll be competing in obedience trials soon...and I still wouldn't trust him. Training will only go so far to counter what has been bred into them. And I think that we often expect too much along those lines. The trainers I work with who know him and have seen his responses both at home and at our training facility are united in that assessment.

You misread or misunderstood what I posted.
Did I suggest that you let Levi run out the back door tomorrow and never check on him? No.
I suggested that, over time, you can train the dog to at least not get into the chickens when he is supervised. I then said that you should be able to work up to periods of unsupervision, of course this depends on the individual dog, the individual owner, and where the training is at.

Training is not really about going counter/against what they were bred for, not IMO at least. Training is about developing control over the dog's impulses and providing them with acceptable outlets that allow them to entertain those natural drives and desires. Dogs that compete in the protection sports, especially the higher levels, are a great example of this -- they will perform high levels of obedience when what they really want to do is go bite the guy; impulses are controlled during obedience and allowed to be expressed upon command to bite.

I'm not saying that you and your trainers are wrong in your evaluation of Levi as never being a dog that can be unsupervised around chickens. That is possible. There are some dogs like that; I have trained a few of them.

I wish you and Levi good luck in the trial ring. It's fun stuff. My trial season just kicked up two weeks ago too.
Idk what you compete in but maybe we'll run into one another at a dog event one of these days.

I didn't misread or misunderstand you. I disagreed with you. If you had originally added the part about it depending on the dog and situation, I would not have. I agree that many dogs can be retrained, but certainly not all. Levi is on that list. No matter how much training I did with him, I would be irresponsible to trust him unsupervised. Ever. And I would not subject my chickens willingly to such a trial.

OMG please everyone keep my wife and family in your thaughts and prayers my wife is going to the hospital tonight for the first in a series of tests for heart desease she had heart problems as a child and now is showing most of the signs I'm so worried for her

I'll keep her in my thoughts.

 

[farmraised86]

Get you a gun!  Sounds like the PD is telling you to get it done!  I would !

yea packs of livestock killing dogs are bad around here because there are so many sh**y people ditching them on back roads to fend for themselves when they decide they don't want them anymore. It starts with road kill then they got the taste for meat and it goes from there and the PD gets flooded with to many calls to handle

 

[sbrooks88]

Sounds like my house! We got dogs tht run with the coyotes and take down the cows on our land.

 

[farmraised86]

Sounds like my house! We got dogs tht run with the coyotes and take down the cows on our land.

I read in north american hunting magazine that right now coyote pelts are going for at and over 75.00 each but where would you sell them is the question