Northeastern Poultry Congress 2014

[fowlman01]

x2. Much respect for judges after seeing them work this event. I'm even thinking of volunteering to clerk next year. Looks like a great learning experience!

Clerking is one of the best ways to learn poultry conformation. Judging from pictures is probably the absolute worst way to critique a chicken....or to learn about them.

Walt

 

[Blarneyeggs]

 
Somebody stole my two chicken carriers, a 3-hole and a 4-hole wire carrier from the show hall. Really not impressive.

Sorry. I always fear such things will happen when people are around-- sorry, they sound like they were nice carriers. 

 
I know this show is now over but when I looked at Dan Castle winning English Champ I see to many comb points on his birds, he's got 6 maybe 7 points can't tell by pic but it's still to many points for real Australorps...  Real Australians have 4-5 points plus a thicker body.  These awards go to the popular breeders not the ones who know there breeds.

Combs are not nearly as important as other features. . . . and the deduction isas I understand it less than a point. ( As long as myroosters have 4-5 point, I'm good; Mr 8 point is out unless he has something I really need. ).  THe judges can only  judge the birds that are entered. ANd since the judge cannot know the name of the owner/breeders as only entry numbers not names are on the cards how can such a bias be implimented in general?  I realize it is possible. People are human; we all have biases even if we try not to. 

In Holland, a judge must stand down, when his stallion is being presented for consideration. Everyone knows who owns the stallion. IT still goes thru the same process. ANd honestly I bet that stallion had better be something special.  In the case I am thinking of, that stallion was creme del a creme, best of the best, and was approved in the following year with remarkable scores.

I watched the judging for a while at NEPC. IT is hard work. Pulling two birds out at a time, looking at 8-10 birds, then putting them in order . . . not a job for me!! I appreciate the great knowledge the judges must have to do this. Are some judges better than others, probably, even likely. BUT they can only select from the birds entered . . . 

Well said, Arielle. I looked at the rows of Black Langshans and thought....how in the heck is the Judge going to handle that!? I don't envy him.

I like when the judges leave notes that help show what they based their decisions on.

 

[hoppy]

I wasn't there due to my ride who did something shady last minute.. I follow Aussie standards not the American standard @ http://www.australorps.com/4.html

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Well said, Arielle. I looked at the rows of Black Langshans and thought....how in the heck is the Judge going to handle that!? I don't envy him.

I like when the judges leave notes that help show what they based their decisions on.
Helps us still learning-- well me anyways. I did wonder about the red circle stickers and some of th abbreviations I didn't know; a few were obvious like BB BV. Lots to learn still . . .

That row of black Langshans were gorgeous!!

 

[Vamvakas]

Yeah, but the thing is in America to many Australorps in the English Class look a lot more like Black Orpingtons and a lot of breeders mix Orpingtons with Australrops and it's hard to find Aussie ones that look Aussie and not from England Orpingtons. I understand the Australorp was made from a Black Orpingtons but the characters changed during time that in Australia. I don't understand why different country's have different rules on breeds for standards they need to keep the standard from where the bird came from and was born.

 

[uphilljill]

I asked about the red stickers, and was told it meant they were part of a trio.

 

[Arielle]

ahhhh-- got it

 

[Blarneyeggs]

I asked about the red stickers, and was told it meant they were part of a trio.

I was wondering about the stickers too, and figured it was trios. Some shows I've been to use a sticker to designate a Junior showing, this show had all the Juniors in a different section, they had their own 'Champion Row' too. I did not expect that.

 

[Arielle]

I liked seeing the junior birds separate-- supports the acheivements of the juniors.