not sure if this is the right place, but i have a few questions

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hey everybody! i'm planning to get some barred rocks and possibly some red stars next spring, and i'm new to the egg producing chickens. does anyone have any suggestions for me? also on the whole fertility thing, if an egg is fertilized can it be eaten or are you not supposed to eat those? i know hens will lay eggs without a rooster but i was hoping to have eggs to eat and hatch some as well and i haven't found any answers. thanks!
 
First off,

WELCOME TO BYC!!!
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We are so glad you are here.

Congratulations on your decision.

Answers: Red stars are wonderful, egg laying machines... especially Cinnamon Queens.

Barred Rocks are good too, but I had some that were very tempramental.

Fertile eggs can be eaten, no big deal, you'll never notice the difference.

If you can have a roo, try and find one that is gentle but a good protector and one that will get the job done if you plan on incubating.

Good luck!
 
Great! thank you so much!
i'm trying to decide if i want to get some of both breeds or just one. i was thinking barred rocks because i heard they are good for meat production and for eggs, but i've also heard about how amazing the red stars are for laying. I'm glad to get some other opinions, so thanks!
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My vote would be to have no roosters unless you are planning to breed for chicks. Roosters are awesome to look at but are pretty much worthless otherwise. I mean why have a rooster when you can have a hen who gives back what you feed it in the form of food?

Here is a link for you to browse which might help you decide what kinds of breeds you want: http://www.ithaca.edu/staff/jhenderson/chooks/dual.html. Not every single breed that lives and breaths is listed, but it might be enough to get you started. This site is quite informative.

You can definitely eat fertilized eggs! Just gather fresh eggs and keep them at room temperature or stick them in the fridge. The incubation process doesn't begin until the temperature is higher as when mom sits on her eggs.

Good luck on your venture and have fun!
 
If you are ordering from a hatchery, and it's your first time, I'd suggest something like the Rainbow Layers from McMurray... can't go wrong there and you get some variety!
 
You have several decisions to make. This is a wonderful site for all sorts of information, from what breeds folks like, to how to raise them successfully. It is excellent you are preparing ahead of time; you will be much happier with your results.

Red stars, cinnamon queens, red comets, and some other names I can't think of at the moment, are hybrids and will not breed true. Hatcheries cross two breeds for egg production and to be able to sex them at birth by color. If you want to establish a good home flock, you might want to start with pure breeds and evaluate from there.

Someone mentioned Barred Rocks being temperamental, but others on here have the same breed as beloved and gentle pets. Same goes for Rhode Island Reds. My experience is that RIR tend to be a lot meaner than BR, for example, whereas Australorp, Sussex, and Orpingtons tend to be docile or even friendly. Point is, this is only determined by breed to a point; they are individuals. Especially true for the roosters, which can be intolerably mean, or the sweetest of pets, and good flock protectors, too. Leghorns are usually considered the best layers, but the dual purpose breeds will lay nearly as well, and Leghorns are one breed that is almost universally very flighty, nervous, hard to handle, and definitely unfriendly. (There are exceptions, of course.)

If you get hatchery birds and want some experience with different breeds, Mahonri's suggestion for a hatchery mix like "rainbow layers" is an excellent one. If you order something like this, say 25 females, you will get a few roosters anyway, because their sexing is not 100% and because they will probably throw in a couple of extra roosters. Then you can choose which are the good roosters and which breeds you want to breed, or whether you just want to let them mix breeds and have "mutts." (Nothing wrong with mutts!) You will only want about one rooster to 10 or 12 hens, anyway. Which leads to another consideration. If you hatch chicks, whether under a broody or in an incubator, you will end up with extra roosters. This can be quite difficult to deal with unless you either eat them or don't mind selling them to those who will.

"Dual purpose" breeds are traditionally considered to be good for both eggs and meat. Barred Rocks (actually Barred Plymouth Rocks) are indeed one. Others are Orpingtons, Rhode Island and New Hampshire Reds, other Rocks, Sussex, Australorps, and more that I can't think of at the moment. Browse some of the big hatchery websites like Ideal and McMurray, as they will group the breeds for you so you know that Leghorns are really only good for eggs (they are small and skinny) but Orpingtons are dual purpose. The dual purpose birds will lay just about as well, if not as well, as the sex-link hybrids like red stars or cinnamon queens.

And do look over the Henderson's chart someone already linked for you. Lots of good information there.

Good luck!
 
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