Not today, Trash Panda

[ShannonR]

Agree with all which has been said earlier. I will also add:

If you are man enough to keep chickens, you should also be man enough to protect them from predators, and NOT by merely making the predator someone else's problem. This is your responsiblity.... now get out there and finish the job. Don't be a wimp about this, because relocation is far more cruel than dispatching the raccoon.

 

[Eggscaping]

The "Problems" with "relocation" ... are multi-faceted ...

1. If you live in the USA ... it will probably be illegal to relocated it while it is living.

The laws are based off of some good reasons ...
1. If it has a disease ... you have now spread that to a new location.
2. It will most likely die in its new location.
A. Being an "intruder" the local raccoons will kill it.
B. It will not know where to find food, water, or shelter, without being attacked.
C. While either trying to get away from the locals, or in search of food, water, and shelter, it will get run over while crossing an unfamiliar roadway ...

Then of course the "Golden Rule" will have been broken too ... "do unto others as you'd have done yourself" ...

By relocating, and releasing it ... you now have a rather smart racoon that if it can somehow overcome the above mentioned death sentence ... it will have learned to be "trap smart" and will not go into another trap, not on its life!

Wherever it is relocated ... it will now be a headache for the local people their, that have a trap smart raccoon killing their chickens ...

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Just kill it, or don't bother traping it ..

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I see 50-45-1 post while I was typing ... and a agree!

If I could LIKE this post a hundred times, I would. In fact, I may copy it onto a text file and use it in the future! Thank you, so much!

 

[Eggscaping]

Lolol I guess if this nasty beast is the hill I gotta die on, then so be it

No, you don't get it. At least, please read and consider what the "don't relocate" people are saying. Do not make a now-trap-savvy predator someone else's problem. Or, if going from the compassionate side, do not dump a raccoon that has its own territory into some other critter's territory where there will be fighting, blood, possible spread of disease, and unpleasantness for the relocated animal and the ones already living there.

 

[LeggyLeghorn]

nature is tough business. i wouldn't mind relocating some humans.

maybe there are more stedfast ways to raccoon/predator proof the chickens?

 

[CLovesDucks]

Last night the security light went on in our yard. This asshole was trying to decide which coop to B&E.

I set out my trap and caught him!
No dead chickens

I’ll relocate him after I have my coffee

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So glad you got him! We just nabbed one in a Havahart trap a night or two ago.

 

[llombardo]

The "Problems" with "relocation" ... are multi-faceted ...

1. If you live in the USA ... it will probably be illegal to relocated it while it is living.

The laws are based off of some good reasons ...
1. If it has a disease ... you have now spread that to a new location.
2. It will most likely die in its new location.
A. Being an "intruder" the local raccoons will kill it.
B. It will not know where to find food, water, or shelter, without being attacked.
C. While either trying to get away from the locals, or in search of food, water, and shelter, it will get run over while crossing an unfamiliar roadway ...

Then of course the "Golden Rule" will have been broken too ... "do unto others as you'd have done to yourself" ...

By relocating, and releasing it ... you now have a rather smart racoon that if it can somehow overcome the above mentioned death sentence ... it will have learned to be "trap smart" and will not go into another trap, not on its life!

Wherever it is relocated ... it will now be a headache for the local people there, that now have a trap smart raccoon killing their chickens ...

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Just kill it, or don't bother trapping it ..

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I see 50-45-1 posted while I was one finger typing ... and I agree!

I have spoken in detail to a trapper. While it's illegal in some places, the animals adapt. Just like they adapt to living with the greatest predator around-humans.

 

[Gilded Feather]

Hope you ended that POS.

 

[Thaney Design]

i wouldn't mind relocating some humans.

My first thought was a chuckle, "Me too!"

My second was that we try that as a country sometimes... tends to go poorly!

 

[123RedBeard]

I have spoken in detail to a trapper. While it's illegal in some places, the animals adapt. Just like they adapt to living with the greatest predator around-humans.

I can't find one state in the USA that allows a homeowner to just transport and release a trapped wild animal off their own property ... can you?

Some states require a trapping permit, even for "problem critters". Some allow release on other private property with prior written permission ...

The following sites give reasons against relocating ...

https://www.paws.org/wildlife/having-a-wildlife-problem/relocating-wildlife/

http://www.wildthingssanctuary.org/trapping--relocating-wildlife.html

https://www.raccoonatticguide.com/relocating.html

https://sandypineswildlife.org/?page_id=107

 

[OhZark Biddies]

I have spoken in detail to a trapper. While it's illegal in some places, the animals adapt...

My question on this is how does anyone know?

I’ve read on this site 33.33337 times that relocating a critter results in that critter starving or being killed by already present critters, etc....

I’ve read the same on various DNR web sites and literature also...

...but never with any reference to a study that actually tracked relocated critters extensively, etc...

...the studies I have found on the subject are limited and not real conclusive either way...

...and now your trapper friend says the opposite and I think “how could he know?” ...

... I’ve trapped for years and couldn’t know this unless I was marking and relocating a large number of critters in an effort to document relocated survival rates specifically ... and I assure you trapping is enough work as is, that I’m no doing that....

The reality is it most likely works out both ways, sometimes the relocated critter does fine, sometimes it is met with competition for resources and ends up not making it...

Anyone who states that it is one way or another is either doing some serious field work and truly knows ... or is repeating something that they’ve been told or that they read... without giving it much thought.

But there is a lot of this kind of “unearned knowledge” passed around on BYC ... things people “know” because they read it... but have no actual “earned knowledge” based on experience...

I don’t believe your trapper friend could truly know one way or the other... anymore than those stating the opposite could truly know....

And to be clear I’m not commenting on what is right or wrong one way or the other... I’m just commenting on the idea that anyone truly knows the survival rate of released raccoons....

... my best guess would be that rate ranges from about 10% to 90% depending on region, season, specific local population densities, specific local resources, specific local communicable disease presence, and eleven other variables.

Old Ma’ Nature simply doesn’t work in absolutes near as often as our simple brains like to think she does