Ok so gmo's are bad but can anyone give me a list of every item that is gmo free? Sorry but having a hard time finding a list that I can eat that is gmo free.
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so far the best list I found was
http://www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/which-fast-food-menu-items-dont-contain-gmos.html
ok so I read this site http://www.nongmoproject.org/learn-more/what-is-gmo/
but the problem I have is most the common things are in about every thing we eat/drink one is Ascorbic Acid,Vitamin C, Citric Acid so all fruit drinks may containe gmo's. But the thing I have the biggest problem with is it's all plant stuff that may have gmos. Which wouldn't be a big deal except that bee's cross pollinate and have been for years. but they have been doing gmo's since what the 50's?? so who knows what has been modified by humans and then transferred by bees? Maybe that's why bees are having such a hard problem now.
Sorry I'm not trying to discourage avoiding gmos but who's to say the seeds you are getting that are suppose to be gmo free haven't been cross pollinated by a bee 50+ years ago or sooner.
http://www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/which-fast-food-menu-items-dont-contain-gmos.html
ok so I read this site http://www.nongmoproject.org/learn-more/what-is-gmo/
but the problem I have is most the common things are in about every thing we eat/drink one is Ascorbic Acid,Vitamin C, Citric Acid so all fruit drinks may containe gmo's. But the thing I have the biggest problem with is it's all plant stuff that may have gmos. Which wouldn't be a big deal except that bee's cross pollinate and have been for years. but they have been doing gmo's since what the 50's?? so who knows what has been modified by humans and then transferred by bees? Maybe that's why bees are having such a hard problem now.
Sorry I'm not trying to discourage avoiding gmos but who's to say the seeds you are getting that are suppose to be gmo free haven't been cross pollinated by a bee 50+ years ago or sooner.
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No way to no for sure about anything ...as GMOs cross pollinate with non GMO s
Yesterday I spent all day cutting out rectangles and sewing a quilt top for a baby present. No computer breaks.
Since I started gardening in the early 70s I have tried to be as organic as possible. I have composted and don't use pesticides. I have used herbicides early in my time on this land because it was too much to deal totally organically at first. But now I'm back on the straight and narrow.
The GMOs starte in the 70s, and Europe at that time said no way, but the US forged right ahead, and so now yes, most corn and wheat are affected. I just got a seed catalog from Bakers Creek Heirloom Seeds, and in their Intro they back up your thoughts, JLaw, "Since the inteoduction of GMOS crops , farmers have seen drastic declines in populations of Honeybees, butterflies, and other pollinators. Frogs, fish and other wildlife are also in decline." In another spot in that catalog they state that they used to carry two dozen varieties of heirloom corn, but since they started testing for GMOs in their seeds, in 2006, they had to discontinue half of those strains as they had been contaminated by cross pollination with GMOs. They refuse to sell GMOs.
Does the bag state certified non GMO? It is hard to keep them out, as one field can be accidentally crossed with one nearby. To be sure, each seed lot must be tested, which I would imagine could be costly...I am ever the skeptic on the issue of organic, GMO etc front.
Since I started gardening in the early 70s I have tried to be as organic as possible. I have composted and don't use pesticides. I have used herbicides early in my time on this land because it was too much to deal totally organically at first. But now I'm back on the straight and narrow.
The GMOs starte in the 70s, and Europe at that time said no way, but the US forged right ahead, and so now yes, most corn and wheat are affected. I just got a seed catalog from Bakers Creek Heirloom Seeds, and in their Intro they back up your thoughts, JLaw, "Since the inteoduction of GMOS crops , farmers have seen drastic declines in populations of Honeybees, butterflies, and other pollinators. Frogs, fish and other wildlife are also in decline." In another spot in that catalog they state that they used to carry two dozen varieties of heirloom corn, but since they started testing for GMOs in their seeds, in 2006, they had to discontinue half of those strains as they had been contaminated by cross pollination with GMOs. They refuse to sell GMOs.
Does the bag state certified non GMO? It is hard to keep them out, as one field can be accidentally crossed with one nearby. To be sure, each seed lot must be tested, which I would imagine could be costly...I am ever the skeptic on the issue of organic, GMO etc front.
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Morning all. Got a little snow this morning. Dh got to hear the complaints from the terrorists this morning. Bunch of wusses. My silkies were out the door in a flash. Hoping to put down some fresh bagged leaves this afternoon after work in the silkie runs.
Lynzi--not ignoring you just worked a 10 hours shift yesterday. The only way to know for sure if its the feed is to keep them on it for a while and see if you are getting consistant quality eggs. The newest egg did look much better and yes, shells do make a difference in hatchability (in my experience anyways). I have gone to using green mountain non gmo feed for my cheeps. Eggs are nice, shells good, poops are firmer and smell better. I did use poulan and there is nothing wrong with it. I just wanted to see if there was any improvement with this feed. Although its a bit more expensive, I think my birds are a little better on it. Of course, each to their own and everyone must do what works for them. Because of my allergies, I have to be careful what I eat. On the green mountain feed, I was able to eat a couple of eggs and have no reaction. I couldnt eat them at all when I gave them the high protein egg pusher from agway and poulan. Again, this is all my experience. I will post my hatching results later this spring when I load up the bators.
Jlaw and Glass---I have also been looking into non gmo. It is possible to find seed from true heirloom plants that have not been cross pollinated by bees. They arent cheap. I also came across an article about a farmer whose non gmo corn was refused by a european country as it tested positve for gmos. Turns out that in the middle of one of his fields, bee had cross pollinated the corn with gmo corn.
Off to the pharm. Have a good one!
Lynzi--not ignoring you just worked a 10 hours shift yesterday. The only way to know for sure if its the feed is to keep them on it for a while and see if you are getting consistant quality eggs. The newest egg did look much better and yes, shells do make a difference in hatchability (in my experience anyways). I have gone to using green mountain non gmo feed for my cheeps. Eggs are nice, shells good, poops are firmer and smell better. I did use poulan and there is nothing wrong with it. I just wanted to see if there was any improvement with this feed. Although its a bit more expensive, I think my birds are a little better on it. Of course, each to their own and everyone must do what works for them. Because of my allergies, I have to be careful what I eat. On the green mountain feed, I was able to eat a couple of eggs and have no reaction. I couldnt eat them at all when I gave them the high protein egg pusher from agway and poulan. Again, this is all my experience. I will post my hatching results later this spring when I load up the bators.
Jlaw and Glass---I have also been looking into non gmo. It is possible to find seed from true heirloom plants that have not been cross pollinated by bees. They arent cheap. I also came across an article about a farmer whose non gmo corn was refused by a european country as it tested positve for gmos. Turns out that in the middle of one of his fields, bee had cross pollinated the corn with gmo corn.
Off to the pharm. Have a good one!
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I wanted to share some photos of Stella's eggs to show you all what I was talking about the other day with her being on this feed. (I'm not 100% sure that it's the feed that is making her egg shells better quality, but they have been terrible quality since she picked up laying this winter) I'm beginning to wonder if the quality of her shells is what has been keeping me from being able to hatch any chicks from her. These are the three eggs side by side from the last egg (left) she layed before feeding the Poulin Grain to the most recent egg (right) I got today and was very happy with. You can see how the last one is nice and shiny where the other two have no shine at all.
This is Egg 1, You can see how porous it is:
This is how her eggs have been for months now. Very difficult to candle too when I was trying to hatch them.
This was Egg 2, the 1st egg after being on the new feed.
Slightly better.
She skipped a day laying yesterday so after being on the new feed for 2-3 days now, this is Egg 3, the one I got today:
Much Much better!!!
So what do you all think? Do you think it's the feed that helping with this change in the quality of the egg shells? Because if it is I definitely want to keep them on it. I'm saving all these eggs for the next couple of days and I'm going to try incubating in my LG one last time while my Silkie eggs finish up in the Brinsea. I really want to see if the first 2 eggs pictured don't develop like they haven't in the past and if this last egg pictured does. If that's the case then that will solve that mystery!
My marans while on the same feed as the others lay a shiny or smoother and thicker shelled egg. Why I don't know but I'm sure there is someone here who does.
I don't work, but did volunteer today. Then got called to babysit the queen and her brother and nothing take precedence over them. Though when Gramma gets home it's worse. Lord she spoils that girl to no end. Makes me madder than a hornet.
French toast with syrup in the living room?
Tab is not like that.
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Right now I believe it's only in the corn. Baker Creek seeds does sell GMO free seeds. At least I think so, though it is becoming harder to do so. Mother Earth News addresses GMO's quite a bit, so you might pick up their latest issue.
Why? I personally think GMO's are bad is that the genetics is transferred to other non GM'd plants and changes them. I wonder what these modified genetics do to my body. Much like the antibiotics in food does. Not only that. What affect do GM'd genes have on my genes that I pass on to my offspring through my seeds?
I would have thought that cooking meat would have eliminated the affect of antibiotics out of food, but apparently not. So is this the same with GM'd foods? That cooking it doesn't protect against the affects of Genetic Modification change in my body? Are some people more resistant to these types of genetic changes than others? We do know that some folks are genetically more resistant to diseases that others succumb to.
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