Old Fashioned Broody Hen Hatch A Long and Informational Thread

I'm pretty sure ive read this on BYC and probably on this thread.....but I don't seem to understand how to search threads. But my question is.....using broodies helps to introduce their chicks into the flock more easily doesn't it? I mean in comparison to us raising the chicks and introducing them. I am sure there CAN be problems no matter the method used. I am seriously planning on buying some hatching eggs...if broody times coordinate with hatching egg availabily. I know if I see chicks in the feed store I am going to want some of them.......but it sound s much easier for the broody to do the work....but I may try it for the experience.

Jessica and her chicks are well. My attempts at a makeshift fence failed. She had them back out with the flock within an hour of my fence construction.....did I say I'm not a carpenter or fence builder? My problem is that the chickens are working faster than me. I need to get someone to make me a brooding nest and my help all want to wait for warm weather while the broodies want to do it now.......I need to get crackalackin before another broody surfaces. But the chicks seem to be fine now. I think my 'help' caused the issue. But I am watching as closely as I can to be sure they are safe.
Bumpercarr and Fisherlady have really good tips about communal chick brooding. It does indeed depend upon the flock as some are laid back enough, and the broody hen has to be assertive enough, so she is able to integrate the chicks into the flock...and that is the ideal way to do it.

I have banty broodies who do not get respect of the big flock (and very eager Cooper's hawks), so chicks tend to get tromped on while momma is running from the big hen or chicks and banty eaten by the hawks. So, I have a separate broody hutch and run that has lots of hawk netting and beak to beak viewing so that by the time the chicks are old enough to keep up in the flock, they are no longer viewed as a complete stranger (or quick meal)...just regular pecking order dynamics and some initial integration issues.

Always do a perimeter check for the stupid chick trick of escape and drowning, and predator assessment. Remove any nasty hens who don't deserve to be in the flock. Then you should have good results.

As to self-brooding vs. hen brooding....I've actually had a side by side comparison the year I was transitioning to broody hens...because...uhemmm...even though I wanted to use broody hens, I didn't have much confidence a hen *could* really do a good job of it, and I wanted new laying hens that season.
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Broody Hen Hatch and Brooding: Well, momma, who had set up her own nest in the main coop, had them hatched in the coop on a cold February (and I mean it was a COLD snap of low 20's and teens). I did subdivide and keep them in the coop and out of exposed weather for a few weeks, but no heat as I don't do heat in coops anymore (burned one down that way). By day 3, momma had the little chicks running around scratching. By week 2 they were flying around and running around without a care. By week 4 they were fully feathered and only snuggled with mom at night. They were holding their own in the flock by week 8, with mom's protection (although it really over stressed her as she was an assertive banty but picked on by the LF... I had a small enough flock at the time so that it worked). Those broody hatched chicks matured very quickly and several were laying by week 14, all by 18 (really...I had to keep checking my calendar)...that was because they were maturing during the lengthening days in natural light and were barnyard mixes of Leghorn/RSL/Barred Rock.

Lady of McCamley Brooding: How was my brooding project going? Well after constant heat lamp...at week 8, I was beginning to raise the heat lamp enough so that they could begin to feel ambient temperature during the DAYtime. By week 12, they were getting used to the ambient temperature by NIGHTtime and were off heat lamps altogether, but in my enclosed garage. I had them out in an outdoor pen by week 14 to acclimate first to something called GRASS and being in the open (which always freaks them out at first) and then to the flock. Had to let them see beaks for several weeks, then integrate slowly into the flock with free range. They too were all RSL and BSL (feed store hybrids while mine were backyard hybrids of the same breeds but not sexlinked). The feed stores pullets were laying by week 20 to 24.

How were they as hens? The broody hatched chicks were slow to warm to me as they had imprinted with their momma (and rightly so)...however I always greet and treat, so in time they became quite calm around me and eager for my food attention. As I greet and treat at roost time, I could handle them at night time if I needed to.

The feedstore chicks were great about being handled as chicks, and excellent with the greet and treat. After integrating into the flock, over time they became more chicken and much less pet tame. Unless you treat your flock like pets, this simply happens. (I am personally fine with it as I don't think of my chickens as pets per se....just my feathered beaked friends.)

In the end, I couldn't tell the difference in handling between the broody hatched chicks and the feed store chicks. They all ran to me when I showed up hoping for the treat bucket, but nobody wanted to be picked up and petted. They all hovered pleasantly at my feet, and followed me around the yard, but if I needed to do something with them, I did so at roost time.

Don't know if any of that is useful to you...but it was a fun observation experiment for me and quite enlightening. I am sold on hen brooding and integrating. I have thought to go to LF broody hens so that they can integrate into the flock better, but I like how frequently the banties brood...so until I can get some of @fisherlady Fisherlady's luck and get some frequent LF broodies, I will stick with my banties and segregated brooding hutch/run with a bit more integration work, but not like the heat lamp chicks....and of course I should add, the hawk situation also encourages me to keep a segregated coop/run for the 'little chicken nuggets."

Have fun with your momma and chick...and totally view this as a message of enable-ment. You DO need to do BOTH!
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Lady of McCamley
 
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Have fun with your momma and chick...and totally view this as a message of enable-ment. You DO need to do BOTH!
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Lady of McCamley

X2. It is really enjoyable to brood your own chicks and it is almost as enjoyable to watch a hen brood them. You need to be able to do both, you never know when you will have to take over. I use an ecoglow, which is a radiant heat system that should not cause a fire (although I've never tested it for that LOL). They are expensive though and not necessary unless you a brooding a lot of chicks yourself.

I usually put my brooded chicks out at week 4 if the weather is acceptable and they have companions. Right now, I have a single that hatched in mid December that is still in the house because the weather is not cooperating and he doesn't have any companions to snuggle up with at night to keep warm. They have their own coop and run, I don't integrate them with the rest of the flock until I can sex them reliably and I fee that they are big enough to withstand the pecking order discussion with the other chickens. At that point, the boy chicks go into the bachelor pad and the girls go into the laying pens or the breeding pens, wherever I have room for them. I rarely put only one chick into a pen. I try to put them with at least one buddy if I can. I do not tame my chicks, well, the single is tame simply because he thinks I'm his mother since he didn't have a sibling. I feed them, talk to them, clean their brooder...basically do all of the things that I do with all of my birds whether they are inside or out in the coop/run. I think it makes it a little easier for them to integrate into the flock but I will admit that it is still hard.

I love broodies because I don't have to do any of that. However, it does make it more difficult for me to split off the males into the bachelor pad if they've been raised by a broody. They are used to being around a bunch of females and when they get thrown into a pen with a bunch of males they tend to be more submissive and frightened than they need to be for at least a week. They also tend to cry continually and hide in the coop for a while.
 
X2. It is really enjoyable to brood your own chicks and it is almost as enjoyable to watch a hen brood them. You need to be able to do both, you never know when you will have to take over. I use an ecoglow, which is a radiant heat system that should not cause a fire (although I've never tested it for that LOL). They are expensive though and not necessary unless you a brooding a lot of chicks yourself.

I usually put my brooded chicks out at week 4 if the weather is acceptable and they have companions. Right now, I have a single that hatched in mid December that is still in the house because the weather is not cooperating and he doesn't have any companions to snuggle up with at night to keep warm. They have their own coop and run, I don't integrate them with the rest of the flock until I can sex them reliably and I fee that they are big enough to withstand the pecking order discussion with the other chickens. At that point, the boy chicks go into the bachelor pad and the girls go into the laying pens or the breeding pens, wherever I have room for them. I rarely put only one chick into a pen. I try to put them with at least one buddy if I can. I do not tame my chicks, well, the single is tame simply because he thinks I'm his mother since he didn't have a sibling. I feed them, talk to them, clean their brooder...basically do all of the things that I do with all of my birds whether they are inside or out in the coop/run. I think it makes it a little easier for them to integrate into the flock but I will admit that it is still hard.

I love broodies because I don't have to do any of that. However, it does make it more difficult for me to split off the males into the bachelor pad if they've been raised by a broody. They are used to being around a bunch of females and when they get thrown into a pen with a bunch of males they tend to be more submissive and frightened than they need to be for at least a week. They also tend to cry continually and hide in the coop for a while.

Bumpercarr is spot on...and weather and range conditions have a lot to do with when to integrate.

I tend to delay here in integrating heat lamp chicks because of our hawk situation and the WET! (Which is pretty much constant...but non-stop in fall through spring.)

Depending upon the time of year...I can integrate much earlier. But a wet chick/pullet AND cold chick/young pullet is not good....especially if they just came off of heat lamp.

I have had a lot of people complain about how COLD it feels here in our wet Northwest Oregon even though they are used to braving snow and wind chill far below what our temps are. It has to do with the high humidity with the constant rain. Mid to upper 30's feels much, much colder.

So if you have a dry cold and a good safe range...you can definitely integrate sooner.

Bottomline...know your flock and conditions.

Lady of McCamley
 
I asked this in another post but got no response...maybe you all know? Will eggs from a hen recently treated with wazine dewormer hatch normally? I wormed mine last week and have been throwing out the eggs since I can't eat them for 2 weeks, but then thought, what if a hen will sit on them and go broody? Right now I'm just leaving the eggs in the nest and seeing what happens. I have Americanas.
 
I asked this in another post but got no response...maybe you all know? Will eggs from a hen recently treated with wazine dewormer hatch normally? I wormed mine last week and have been throwing out the eggs since I can't eat them for 2 weeks, but then thought, what if a hen will sit on them and go broody? Right now I'm just leaving the eggs in the nest and seeing what happens. I have Americanas.
They should be fine. I worm regularly and have never noticed any problems with the hatch rate or the resulting chicks.
 
Thank you so much Lady of McCamley and Bumpercarr. I ask so many questions and sometimes feel bad for that. I am sure I repeat questions as I don't always remember which thread ive posted on. I don't think I really want the extra work of raising them myself, but I agree I need to know how in case I ever have to. If only I can restrain myself at the feed store and not over do it.

Very interesting L of McC that in the end there is little difference in the friendliness of the birds regardless of how they are raised after they are integrated into the flock.

Thank you both.
 
One of you kind members stumbled onto my Member Page (my story), and gave me an ovation...thank you...but also helped me FIND that page again (which had fallen off my access area)...so I updated it.

If any of you are interested in some of my back story, here it is: https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/lady-of-mccamleys-member-page

It's fun to see how much has changed over the years....in coop additions as the addiction has taken hold ...and the brooding projects and egg basket development...Also, I noticed I don't really name my chickens any more (except my broodies, and maybe one or two special keepers)...I can't keep up with the flock change overs over the time!

Lady of McCamley
 
One of you kind members stumbled onto my Member Page (my story), and gave me an ovation...thank you...but also helped me FIND that page again (which had fallen off my access area)...so I updated it.

If any of you are interested in some of my back story, here it is: https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/lady-of-mccamleys-member-page

It's fun to see how much has changed over the years....in coop additions as the addiction has taken hold   ...and the brooding projects and egg basket development...Also, I noticed I don't really name my chickens any more (except my broodies, and maybe one or two special keepers)...I can't keep up with the flock change overs over the time!  

Lady of McCamley



I loved your story...thnx for sharing. Its good to see the ups and downs of raising chickens.
 
Have fun with your momma and chick...and totally view this as a message of enable-ment. You DO need to do BOTH!
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Lady of McCamley
Great comparison! I'm gearing up for my own broody vs. brooder experiament. 16 eggs in the incubator and 18 under 3 1st time broodies. They are all silkie/ cochin mixes. 3 more days untill fuzzy butt overload!
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