Old Fashioned Broody Hen Hatch A Long and Informational Thread

[vpatt]

They will typically be 3/4 size.

And since dad is barred, they will all be barred too. Comb will vary...don't have my comb genetics down yet...but rose comb with straight...I *think* rose is dominant???

LofMc

So all of the Doms offspring will be barred? I didn't know that....hmmm.

 

[Lady of McCamley]

How many bantam eggs could you out under a Austrlorp?or is she to big ?
How many standard?
Can I mix them?

She is not too big if you are talking "standard" bantam...yes a mix in terms, but I mean bantam size bantam vs. something like a Seabright which is tiny. She could hatch tiny Seabright eggs too, but she might crush the tiny chicks just moving around.

So back to bantam...I only have Silkies currently laying, so I don't have a size comparison other than a Silkie, whose egg is about half the size of a large/extra large store bought type. Physically she could cover quite a few eggs. She could cover about a dozen normal eggs, so she could physically cover about 16 to 18 bantam eggs...but that is a LOT of babies to care for...I think I would do no more than 12.

As to mixing, yes you can. I've mixed hatches with game size eggs and large. But the babies were about 3/4 the size of the large, so it wasn't a big deal.

Again if you are talking little bantams, there could be more of a problem.

LofMc

 

[Lady of McCamley]

So all of the Doms offspring will be barred? I didn't know that....hmmm.

Yes. Barred is dominant when the male is barred. If the female were barred and mated with a non-barred male, you could get sex-linked children if the color of the male did not interfere with the barring showing.

If you mate a barred male over a white female (dominant white), they are still all barred but the white will not show as barred since it is white barring on white (like when some jokster changes your font color and you can't see what you are typing on white background).

Play around with the genetic calculator here to see your options:
http://www.breedbook.org/?action=geneticscalculator&tab=CHICKEN

LofMc

 

[Kaylish]

Well it must be broody season cause I'm up to 3 now! Storm is doing good on her 4 Orpington eggs due to hatch on Sunday. Twin #1 is on 7 bantams; due April 4 (my Easter HAL Cochinbator) and now Jasmin (bantam birchen cochin) has 4 mottled cochin eggs set yesterday. I moved 14 out of the 19 - 7 week olds to the sales/grow out pen yesterday so now it's just time to sit back and wait for fuzzy butts!

 

[vpatt]

Yes. Barred is dominant when the male is barred. If the female were barred and mated with a non-barred male, you could get sex-linked children if the color of the male did not interfere with the barring showing.

If you mate a barred male over a white female (dominant white), they are still all barred but the white will not show as barred since it is white barring on white (like when some jokster changes your font color and you can't see what you are typing on white background).

Play around with the genetic calculator here to see your options:
http://www.breedbook.org/?action=geneticscalculator&tab=CHICKEN

LofMc

Thanks .... I'll check it out. Might keep the EE pullet that is growing a red comb at four weeks. If the two roos get along.

 

[bumpercarr]

So all of the Doms offspring will be barred? I didn't know that....hmmm.

Generally speaking the color of the pullets will come from the dad. The cockerel color is dependent on a variety of things. The barring pattern is dominant, therefore if the male has two clean copies of the barring pattern all of the chicks will be barred. If the mother doesn't have a barring gene, then if the offspring are bred they will produce offspring with various patterns of barring (called incomplete barring). If he only has one copy of the barring gene, you will get some variation of barring dependent on the pattern of the mother (again, incomplete barring).

Sorry for the long explanation...genetics is of particular interest to me.

 

[Lady of McCamley]

Well it must be broody season cause I'm up to 3 now! Storm is doing good on her 4 Orpington eggs due to hatch on Sunday. Twin #1 is on 7 bantams; due April 4 (my Easter HAL Cochinbator) and now Jasmin (bantam birchen cochin) has 4 mottled cochin eggs set yesterday. I moved 14 out of the 19 - 7 week olds to the sales/grow out pen yesterday so now it's just time to sit back and wait for fuzzy butts!

How fun...happy hatching.

BTW...love Cochinbator...ha ha ha....

I must have a Brin-Silkea. :snork, snork:

LofMc

 

[Kaylish]

How fun...happy hatching.

BTW...love Cochinbator...ha ha ha....

I must have a Brin-Silkea. :snork, snork:

LofMc

Brin-Silkea!

That's great!
("Cochinbator" comes from one of the ladies on the NorCal thread and sooo fits)

 

[Angie16hearts]

She is not too big if you are talking "standard" bantam...yes a mix in terms, but I mean bantam size bantam vs. something like a Seabright which is tiny. She could hatch tiny Seabright eggs too, but she might crush the tiny chicks just moving around.

So back to bantam...I only have Silkies currently laying, so I don't have a size comparison other than a Silkie, whose egg is about half the size of a large/extra large store bought type. Physically she could cover quite a few eggs. She could cover about a dozen normal eggs, so she could physically cover about 16 to 18 bantam eggs...but that is a LOT of babies to care for...I think I would do no more than 12.

As to mixing, yes you can. I've mixed hatches with game size eggs and large. But the babies were about 3/4 the size of the large, so it wasn't a big deal.

Again if you are talking little bantams, there could be more of a problem.

LofMc

I have a bearded mille Fluer D'uccle and a frizzle cochin. He mates them both. The cochin bantam lays bigger rounder eggs. Mille lays pointed eggs. Should I chance a few?

 

[Lady of McCamley]

I have a bearded mille Fluer D'uccle and a frizzle cochin. He mates them both. The cochin bantam lays bigger rounder eggs. Mille lays pointed eggs. Should I chance a few?

I would....or wait until the Cochin goes broody...that is likely only a matter of time.
LofMc