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Old Fashioned Broody Hen Hatch A Long and Informational Thread

Unfortunately a raccoon helped me figure when my phoenix eggs are due to hatch. I got her in the middle of a brood. The raccoon got in the coop before I could shut it last night and crushed an egg open. Luckily I caught him before he could get the rest or my chickens. Should be due sometime this week.
 
Unfortunately a raccoon helped me figure when my phoenix eggs are due to hatch. I got her in the middle of a brood. The raccoon got in the coop before I could shut it last night and crushed an egg open. Luckily I caught him before he could get the rest or my chickens. Should be due sometime this week.

sorry to hear about the raccoon and am glad you got him in time to prevent more damage...

hopefully the rest of your eggs hatch without problems!
 
I just feed 1 type of feed, either chick or layer, to all birds. Its a cost factor, either use higher protein chick feed, hoping it doesn't make egg production slack off, or layer and the chicks slow growth by a small margin. They don't need the extra calcium like layers do. If they range they will even out diet as they need themselves. Otherwise I think you would have to keep broodies w/chicks separated from main flock to keep feed from being eaten by all birds. Unless you want to get constructive and build a chick "creep feeder". Something where only small chicks can enter and get the feed you put in there. This however might cause Mama's to call chicks away if SHE cannot reach feed therefor decide chicks can't get to it either.
Higher protein actually can temporarily increase egg production till it overloads the liver and kidneys.

I did the creep feeder thing once and a Jaerhon hen would crawl through the opening and eat the starter feed so I agree that it's better to keep them separate.
I've taken chicks away before to feed them separately but the broody really does miss them and I now always let them raise them. Early last winter, a broody hatched a couple chicks and it got down close to zero so I took the chicks away for a few days till it warmed back up over freezing. When I put the cage with the chicks into the pen the hen ran to the cage clearly elated to see the chicks she probably thought were dead.

I would not feel comfortable feeding layer diet to a rapidly growing bird. The calcium:phosphorus ratio in layer food doesn't develop bones properly, so there can be both poor growth and long term skeletal issues, decreased elasticity of the tendons and ligaments, sometimes abnormal organ development due to microscopic soft tissue mineralization, plus the protein levels are less than ideal. It might not be a big deal for some people if their chicks grow a little slower, and it just takes a few more weeks to get to slaughter weight (although that's a lot of wasted food, which is expensive). But it's a huge deal if you're breeding purebreds, with the intention of raising long-lived and healthy breeding stock, or if you're raising birds for pets. Chick food is fine to feed to the broody, as she's not laying eggs while the chicks are really young. For flocks with both chicks, broodies, layers, and roosters all mixed together, an excellent solution is to feed either a chick diet or a general flockraiser diet, which are typically 18-20% protein and no excessive calcium, but also provide oyster shells for the laying hens. Typically the layers crave the oyster shells, and the chicks and rooster don't, so everyone gets what they need nutritionally.

All the bags of layer diet that I've ever seen, regardless of brand, all warn to not feed to birds under 18 weeks old.
All good points.

Choosing that route, it's important that one never lets the oyster shell containers go empty.
The kidneys and other organs of non-layers get calcium deposits that will shorten their life. Research shows that in flocks of broiler breeders on layer feed, males die at 4 times the rate of females. Kidney stones and gout is normally the cause.
18 weeks to start layer for same age flocks is a good idea in spring and summer. But if birds reach that age in fall and winter, I recommend not feeding layer because if one isn't using a good lighting program, they don't know how long it will be till the pullets start laying.

Hatching should commence in the next couple of days! So excited!

Ms Broody-butt
Mine should be getting close too. I don't remember what day they both went broody but it was about 20 days ago. I took all the cross eggs away to put into the incubator and left all the purebred eggs with the broodies so I would know what chicks were what. I finally sold a rooster yesterday that had been in a breeder/broody apartment. Last night at dusk I put the broody ameraucana that was with the flock into that apartment after I cleaned it out.

I personally don't feed layer at all either. I give them flock raiser with oyster shell on the side for any that need/want it. I mainly keep them on that high protein diet because I raise brahmas, they take about 18 months to mature. I do have to watch their weight though, it is easy for them to gain too much weight. I guess I should qualify by saying I put everyone on chick starter when I have chicks under 6 weeks old with them, but move to flock raiser after they are weaned.
I keep young birds separate unless they are raised by setters.
I once kept several types of feed on hand. I've switched to keeping primarily a 16% coarsely ground grower feed. For chicks and molters, I add a percentage of 60% fishmeal to achieve the appropriate protein for their needs.

Do you only have one nest? Most broodies want privacy. Things might improve both for the broody and the other hens if she were moved out of the coop. If you read this thread back over the last 2-4 weeks, there are numerous posts about how to move a broody. Alternatively, you can fashion a private area for her within the coop. Fisherlady has posted numerous times about how to set up an in-coop veranda to make a broody feel more secure. She is not trying to be difficult. She is just trying to defend her nest. Instinct tells her that the survival of her babies depends on it. Everything will improve when she feels that her nest is safe.
Good points. I've done it both ways. Setters with the flock, setters in the penned area of the flocks coop and setters in their own space. The latter works best.

So my EE chick has pasty butt, but shes eating and drinking perfectly. I sat in the bathroom for almost a whole hour just watching my chicks, Im obsessed I know. The EE was put with my other chicks, theyre only a week older but theyre bantams so theyre only a bit bigger. They did a great job of calming her down and I walked in there once and they were all sleeping together right outside of the heat lamp area. Her belly is filled and shes no longer trembling like she was this morning, but the pasty butt is what worries me. I keep the area clean and I added electrolytes to the water, of course I have another one with just plain water. Im just going to keep an eye on her for another day just incase. Thank You everybody! Yall are awesome.
Chick grit and probiotics often help with pasty vent.

Wow, time flies by. It's actually been over a month since moving a broody has been discussed on this thread. And this thread is so long that no one can read it all. Here's a link to when I last posted some directions: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...n-hatch-a-long-and-informational-thread/20040. It's post #20048. Prior to that there are a number of posts also. Good luck.
Thanks for the repost.

Unfortunately a raccoon helped me figure when my phoenix eggs are due to hatch. I got her in the middle of a brood. The raccoon got in the coop before I could shut it last night and crushed an egg open. Luckily I caught him before he could get the rest or my chickens. Should be due sometime this week.

Glad you caught it in time.
I didn't close a coop once and luckily, I hadn't collected eggs either and the opossum was satisfied to have eggs for dinner rather than chicken.
 
Unfortunately a raccoon helped me figure when my phoenix eggs are due to hatch. I got her in the middle of a brood. The raccoon got in the coop before I could shut it last night and crushed an egg open. Luckily I caught him before he could get the rest or my chickens. Should be due sometime this week.

You are sooooo lucky. It's sad that an egg got crushed, but you could have lost everyone in the coop. Such a good reminder that closing our coops shortly after sunset is not the same as closing them at sunset.
 
My broody hen is so close to hatching! I'm still not 100% certain about the day, but I think she's on day 20. I candled when she was off the nest yesterday. The eggs look fully developed, but I didn't see any internal pips yet. I'm not hearing any sounds from her nest. Are there other signs she might be close to hatching? I'm absolutely beside myself with excitement! My first broody hatch! :jumpy
 
You are sooooo lucky. It's sad that an egg got crushed, but you could have lost everyone in the coop. Such a good reminder that closing our coops shortly after sunset is not the same as closing them at sunset.

At 1:30 this morning I realized my son had not put the chickens away. We have so many that roost in trees and so many owls that not putting them up isn't an option. So I jumped out of bed, got my headlamp and off I went. I got everyone out of the trees and went to do the sex link coop where the girls like to sleep on top of the roof (stupid chickens!!!). One of the girls jumped off the spring loaded door just as I rose from a crouching position and I got knocked so hard in the head I almost passed out. Needless to say I left the rest of them and staggered back to the house. I seriously thought I would have to go to the ER. Then the rest of the night I worried that an owl would come since I didn't finish. *sigh*
My broody hen is so close to hatching! I'm still not 100% certain about the day, but I think she's on day 20. I candled when she was off the nest yesterday. The eggs look fully developed, but I didn't see any internal pips yet. I'm not hearing any sounds from her nest. Are there other signs she might be close to hatching? I'm absolutely beside myself with excitement! My first broody hatch!
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I am always totally surprised even when I know the date. lol I usually open the broody pen and hear cheeping.
 
My broody hen is so close to hatching! I'm still not 100% certain about the day, but I think she's on day 20. I candled when she was off the nest yesterday. The eggs look fully developed, but I didn't see any internal pips yet. I'm not hearing any sounds from her nest. Are there other signs she might be close to hatching? I'm absolutely beside myself with excitement! My first broody hatch!
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my hens usually start 'talking' to themselves the day before hatch... actually, they are talking to their little ones still in the eggs, but you usually can't hear the little ones unless you get right down beside the nest really close, and broodies usually don't appreciate that! LOL
 
At 1:30 this morning I realized my son had not put the chickens away. We have so many that roost in trees and so many owls that not putting them up isn't an option. So I jumped out of bed, got my headlamp and off I went. I got everyone out of the trees and went to do the sex link coop where the girls like to sleep on top of the roof (stupid chickens!!!). One of the girls jumped off the spring loaded door just as I rose from a crouching position and I got knocked so hard in the head I almost passed out. Needless to say I left the rest of them and staggered back to the house. I seriously thought I would have to go to the ER. Then the rest of the night I worried that an owl would come since I didn't finish. *sigh*
You mean I'm not the only one!!! My Dorkings have roosted in trees since the day they could fly, and much prefer it to their coop. Everyone else just puts themselves to bed at sunset, and the Dorkings fly into their tree. E V E R Y N I G H T I have to climb the ladder and pull birds out of a tree. Sometimes they're too high even with a 12 foot ladder and a few easy stepping branches above that, and I've resigned to not putting myself at risk by climbing even further into the tree to get them down. That's hard to do when my best hen, the foundation on my breeding flock, decides to roost 30 feet in the air, but luckily she only goes that high a few times a year. It's amazing to see them fly down from such a high roost. They make a lot of noise, which I assume is the chicken equivalent of yelling "Geranimo!!" and fly out about twice as far away as they are high up. It's still a bit of a hard landing with a bird this big (the hens are 6-7 lbs, and the roosters are 8-9 lbs). Once there was about 3-4 inches of snow on the ground, and they left a perfect indentation of both feet, light chest contact, and firm contact of both wings, to the point that you could identify every primary feather shaft. I wish they wouldn't do that, especially when they're laying, but that's just who they are. They'd be miserable if they didn't free range, and I can't keep them out of the tree without fully enclosing the bottom half in netting, which would be almost impossible with a tree this big.
 
Just when I thought the Bella situation couldn't get worse, the hens just had to prove me wrong. Daisy had decided to go broody and who's nest does she want? Bella's. Bella is just happily sitting infront of the pophole on nothing! I kicked daisy out and went to get Bella and she started attacking me so I grabbed her and shoved her back in the nest. This really isn't going to go well!
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Just when I thought the Bella situation couldn't get worse, the hens just had to prove me wrong. Daisy had decided to go broody and who's nest does she want? Bella's. Bella is just happily sitting infront of the pophole on nothing! I kicked daisy out and went to get Bella and she started attacking me so I grabbed her and shoved her back in the nest. This really isn't going to go well!
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I love this pic
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BO are one of my favorite!
 

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