Old hen acting sick. Do anything?

[Eggcessive]

Will safe guard kill capillaria worms? I've only used safe guard 1X but i need to order some and want to make sure it will kill them as well. Thanks

SafeGuard Liquid Goat Wormer will kill capillaria worms at 1 ml given orally 5 days in a row. The normal dosage is 1/2 ml.

 

[Michael Apple]

Will safe guard kill capillaria worms? I've only used safe guard 1X but i need to order some and want to make sure it will kill them as well. Thanks

Yes, Fenbendazole is effective against hairworms (Capillaria sp). In regard to the question you asked about small pieces of bread soaked in buttermilk, that is merely something I've done for birds which had crop impactions, or intestinal problems which were remedied, and wanted to get easily passed nutrients in them. The protein, calcium, vitamin A,C & D with saccharides/ lactobacillus helps, and when given in small amounts, seems to get them encouraged to desire more food, then move on to moistened feed, and eventually to dry crumbles/pellets again. The bacteria of the buttermilk attach to the intestinal mucosa, thereby forming a physical barrier that blocks the attachment of pathogenic bacteria, then nutrients from other foods can again be utilized. Commercial producers use milk replacers for a limited time to contend with early signs of enteritis in flocks.

Sorry about your hen, Scott. I've found worming birds 2-3 times over the period of a year is a way to prevent many intestinal related health problems. It is when people are too frequent with medications, or use the same medications consistently, that they become ineffective. It is always good to keep two types of dewormers( i.e. Fenbendazole, Albendazole, Pyrantel), Corid (Amprolium), Sulfadimethoxine, vitamin-electrolyte-probiotic powder (Probios has an excellent profile of good gut bacteria), an effective emulsified concentrate insecticide labeled for use on poultry as well as premises, and antibiotics such as Neomed325, Amoxicillin, or even Chlortetracyclnie in water dispersible powders in the poultry med cabinet.

Probiotics naturally occurring in food stuffs may not have enough of what benefits the birds. Probiotic dispersible powders like I mentioned, are formulated for and better utilized, in addition to being stabilized for longer shelf life when stored properly in a cool, dry place. Here's some information about probiotics:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/artic...poultry-and-pig-nutrition-basics-and-benefits

 

[Miss Lydia]

Yes, Fenbendazole is effective against hairworms (Capillaria sp). In regard to the question you asked about small pieces of bread soaked in buttermilk, that is merely something I've done for birds which had crop impactions, or intestinal problems which were remedied, and wanted to get easily passed nutrients in them. The protein, calcium, vitamin A,C & D with saccharides/ lactobacillus helps, and when given in small amounts, seems to get them encouraged to desire more food, then move on to moistened feed, and eventually to dry crumbles/pellets again. The bacteria of the buttermilk attach to the intestinal mucosa, thereby forming a physical barrier that blocks the attachment of pathogenic bacteria, then nutrients from other foods can again be utilized. Commercial producers use milk replacers for a limited time to contend with early signs of enteritis in flocks.

Sorry about your hen, Scott. I've found worming birds 2-3 times over the period of a year is a way to prevent many intestinal related health problems. It is when people are too frequent with medications, or use the same medications consistently, that they become ineffective. It is always good to keep two types of dewormers( i.e. Fenbendazole, Albendazole, Pyrantel), Corid (Amprolium), Sulfadimethoxine, vitamin-electrolyte-probiotic powder (Probios has an excellent profile of good gut bacteria), an effective emulsified concentrate insecticide labeled for use on poultry as well as premises, and antibiotics such as Neomed325, Amoxicillin, or even Chlortetracyclnie in water dispersible powders in the poultry med cabinet.

Probiotics naturally occurring in food stuffs may not have enough of what benefits the birds. Probiotic dispersible powders like I mentioned, are formulated for and better utilized, in addition to being stabilized for longer shelf life when stored properly in a cool, dry place. Here's some information about probiotics:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/artic...poultry-and-pig-nutrition-basics-and-benefits

Thanks for the info, worming is not new to me I worm 3X a year here but using different ones is, I always used Wazine for the round worms and then Epernix Pour on for the rest but when my roo came down with gape worm I knew I need to change my way of worming and thinking. so all this info is very good for Scott and me and others too . Now do you give the powder probiotic only when you have wormed or treated for other health issues? I have the probiotics but have only used them at those times. Is this something we should do on a regular basis. I also Ferment the feed I feed to my flock. And does any Butter milk work better than the other? like low fat verses whole fat. and is it better than using say a good quality yogurt? Thanks again to both of you [Eggcessive] for the valuable info .

 

[Michael Apple]

Thanks for the info, worming is not new to me I worm 3X a year here but using different ones is, I always used Wazine for the round worms and then Epernix Pour on for the rest but when my roo came down with gape worm I knew I need to change my way of worming and thinking. so all this info is very good for Scott and me and others too . Now do you give the powder probiotic only when you have wormed or treated for other health issues? I have the probiotics but have only used them at those times. Is this something we should do on a regular basis. I also Ferment the feed I feed to my flock. And does any Butter milk work better than the other? like low fat verses whole fat. and is it better than using say a good quality yogurt? Thanks again to both of you [Eggcessive] for the valuable info .

You're welcome. I used Eprinex years ago and eventually learned how ineffective Ivermectin is against worms. Direct fed Benzamidazole classes of wormers are the most effective and are safe when used correctly. I use Probios dispersible powder 2-3 times a week in waterers. I do the same with vitamin-electrolyte powder. During moult, I do it generally 5 days a week since birds go off feed, or eat less during moult. I'll even use moult supplements such as those by Aviomed since I have a couple hard moulters which become quite stressed. The main reason I suggest buttermilk in times of individual treatment for intestinal recovery from impacted crop, enteritis is due to convenience since most grocery stores carry it. It is commonly 1-2% fat around here, and I think less fat is better. I prefer buttermilk to yogurt since yogurt is not liquid, and does not absorb readily into foods like buttermilk does.

 

[Miss Lydia]

You're welcome. I used Eprinex years ago and eventually learned how ineffective Ivermectin is against worms. Direct fed Benzamidazole classes of wormers are the most effective and are safe when used correctly. I use Probios dispersible powder 2-3 times a week in waterers. I do the same with vitamin-electrolyte powder. During moult, I do it generally 5 days a week since birds go off feed, or eat less during moult. I'll even use moult supplements such as those by Aviomed since I have a couple hard moulters which become quite stressed. The main reason I suggest buttermilk in times of individual treatment for intestinal recovery from impacted crop, enteritis is due to convenience since most grocery stores carry it. It is commonly 1-2% fat around here, and I think less fat is better. I prefer buttermilk to yogurt since yogurt is not liquid, and does not absorb readily into foods like buttermilk does.

Thanks again like most I only use probiotics when using antibiotics[for myself] so I will begin using the powdered probo more often for the flock,I have always used Nutri Drench during molt and other stressful times but I also have the electrolytes/vitamin packet just need to switch off an on with the 2. and I love Butter milk so I'll buy some and the birds and I can share.
Thanks again. Got it book marked now so I have the info to go back to.