I'm starting a new discussion since the old discussion was frozen by moderators due to an unfortunate comment. Please, keep this civil. All topics concerning chickens, raising chicks,processing meat birds and even gardineg and composting are fine but please, let's keep this friendly and fun. Because I'm starting it ( thanks Beekissed for the first one) I have one other request. It seems that many of our old timers have an organic approach to raising chickens. So, let's continue that organic trend, with the pros/cons of raising chickens organically. No Monsanto political discussions, that belongs elsewhere but just basic discussions on how our flocks can and do survive without toxic chemicals. Because, "better living through chemicals" isn't always better. I'd like to see us continue our discussions of improving the immune system through breeding, organic methods of deworming ( this can include processing or culling chickens that aren't hardy enough) and thoughts about chemicals used for external parasite control. I'd also like to see if we can begin to discuss some garden and farm management, since poultry ( chickens, ducks, peafowl, guineas) are frequently a part of a larger organic system, especially when it comes to insect control and fertilizer. Finally, to keep this on the topic of Old Timers helping the newcomers, and to help keep this thread open, let's try something. When you start your post, please state your forum name, number of years in poultry/type of poultry at the beginning of the post. Sort of like a twelve step meeting, lol. Example: Tracydr, 25 years raising chickens, peafowl, guineas and a few ducks, pigeon, quails. Then, go on with your question, statement or answer to somebody else's question. Let's try to keep this on topic. There may be some gruesome pictures, some talk of killing, processing, culling of undesirable traits. But, let's not get sidetracked talking about chicken sweaters and other modern-day accoutrements that are certainly not a necessary part of chicken or farm management. Most importantly, let's have fun and learn from each other!