organic geese food?

[DaveK]

Anyone thinking ORGANIC is somehow wonderful should look into what conditions can produce certified organic beef products. The average consumer thinks in terms of happy animals living a pasture life in fairyland. The same feedlot environment that produces non organic can also produce certified organic if feeding and some other practices are changed. Grassfed as a label is actually closer to the average consumer's idea of organic. I'll completely agree with GD on this one. ORGANIC is often nothing but a BS marketing label.

 

[Olive Hill]

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Indeed it is. They all are. Have you ever looked at the standards for "certified humane"? Oh, brother. The standards -- for so many of the labels -- actually prevent the animals from being raised as the consumer would imagine. Which makes it even more perplexing why one would want to mis-use them to begin with.

 

[Cottage Rose]

Olive Hill
I think you're misunderstanding what I wrote...
I said IF the person was feeding organic feeds and didn't use chemicals etc. on their property.
For some consumers that's very desirable even if the soil that the birds free range on hasn't
been herbicide/pesticide free for 10 years or the seller isn't certified organic.
Better than store eggs from egg factories, thats for sure!
It might be easier if the original poster would clarify what shes means too.

 

[Olive Hill]

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Ahhh, okay. Yes, I do see what you are saying then. I was applying it directly to the OP when you were speaking more theoretically. IF a person does XYZ they could say 123. And saying that may or may not apply here. Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

I just went back and read the OP, too. And you're right, a clarification from the OP as to what the "poultry food from the store" is, exactly. May be helpful. It is, I suppose, possible they've been feeding organic feed from the store, though given the nature of the question I doubt it.

And you're right, many things are more desirable to consumers than even those farms that are certified organic. We are not certified organic and have no qualms about telling our clients why; we believe what we're doing is better. I've yet to lose a client to that end. My only issue was in the honesty. Not the merits of organic vs non-organic. And certainly not with you personally.

 

[The goose girl]

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I agree, and it's really a shame. The initial intentions of organic farming were good (IMHO), but as it grew to be a profitable "brand", regulation was needed, and some of the producers (the big ones) push the rules to the limit. That was never the intention, but as long as we accept meat or egg factories, that will be the reality. At least, with the organic label, we're all able to look it up and find out exactly what the term covers - and what it doesn't.

How about marking the egg (we're still talking about only the one egg, right?) "My Personal Version of Organic"?

 

[Wifezilla]

There are a lot of terms you can use besides organic. Just be honest about what you are doing.

Free range
Pastured
Farm fresh
Home grown
Sustainable
Cage-free
Cruelty-free
Natural

 

[Jenifer Kraus]

We do raise Grass finished Beef. They are hormone and antibiotic free and have never been fed grain. Not organic but as close as we can get it. Chickens that we process are antibiotic free and in the stores they always say hormone free, I have never had feed with hormone in it. I think it is another gimick. We are now raising Red Wattle Hogs and trying to to the same. If you are honest with the customers , they will be back. They appreciate what you're doing.