Over treatment with medication?

[aart]

I wouldn't stress about her weight too much, just concentrate on getting feed and water thru her.

 

[BugStalker]

She just nibbled on the soaked feed a bit, again.

 

[BugStalker]

As it dissolved, I noticed a light smell. Her crop emptied, then a very soft lump came back out, with a smell, then it emptied again as I started to massage. She's eating and drinking a lot of water. Her droppings have better shape, but are still wet. I can see the oil in them. She's getting a better appetite; she may not empty again until morning for me to check for the soft lump, so I'm continuing the oil for now.

 

[Chicalina]

My goodness, I've just read this whole thread. You are sure doing a lot. I would cut all the monitoring and "treatment" down like someone suggested, put her with the flock, feed normal plain feed and watch her behaviour. Give her scrambled eggs and yoghurt on the side if she isn't eating much, or her crop is squishy but that is all for now.

Tubing is so invasive and distressing. Last resort in my mind.

Magnesium causes diarrhoea, so I would not give that any more.

It looks like she hasn't had much of a chance yet to show you she may be acting normally once she is back in her usual environment. Unless she is at death's door, bringing her indoors, tubing and medicating her to this extent seems a bit too much.

Just my ha'porth.

 

[BugStalker]

She had a full crop last night. There was still something left in the morning, but her crop was tight, I waited for her to drink and loosen up before feeling again. After only a few drinks, there was too much water to feel anything. I left her in with the others, with dry and wet feed and water enough for all of them, in a familiar area without grass. The only dropping I saw from her had no solids or white. Her crop was full again, tonight. I'll see how it feels in the morning.

She isn't on any treatment, though I'm not completely sure if I stopped the Cocoanut oil too soon. I would like to monitor just enough to see her droppings. I'm not even weighing, currently. She hasn't wanted eggs or yogurt, but I intend to try again.

Tubing was actually the last thing I was comfortable trying with this bird, but now I'm sure I had more time than I realized. I hadn't seen solids for at least 2 days, and less invasive treatments hadn't changed anything. (I waited 20 hours after docusate sodium.) I now believe I could safely have doubled (probably more) the waiting time, giving Cocoanut oil throughout, and tubing likely would not have been needed.

The magnesium I gave with zinc in it was to flush, which is basically inducing diarrhea. I haven't given any, since starting this topic, except what is in the feed and Nutri-Drench (or maybe the children's vitamins I was using before.)

Except for one cold day, and a couple cold stormy nights, when she was shivering without many feathers, I don't like to keep her in long, and I like her to choose. I also don't like much temperature difference from outside.

My over-medicating was the reason I started this thread. I often read that it's important to treat right away, and this or that treatment is safe, but this was too much. It helps to hear I can be more patient, and also to get other treatment advice. I appreciate it.

BTW, is there a way to edit the title of this thread? Studies I found seem to suggest the amount of zinc oxide I gave over the time I gave it wouldn't have much poisonous effect.

 

[aart]

BTW, is there a way to edit the title of this thread?

Click 'report' on the first post of thread and ask to have title changed.

 

[BugStalker]

Her crop was a little slow, this morning, but emptied with a couple seconds of massage. There was a smell for a second, could have been sour, but not sure it was from her. She had moved up a rung and over during the night, but there were muddy droppings I think were from her.

 

[aart]

Her crop was a little slow, this morning, but emptied with a couple seconds of massage. There was a smell for a second, could have been sour, but not sure it was from her. She had moved up a rung and over during the night, but there were muddy droppings I think were from her.

To truly monitor this birds digestive function, she needs to be crated for several days 24/7.
..and fed nothing but a good chicken ration and plain water.
Only apply one 'med' at a time and give it time(at least a week) to work, or not.
Your thread title change is apt.

 

[Chicalina]

Glad to hear she seems a lot better! I'm hopeful that if she carries on improving and behaving normally that she will be fine.

Sometimes chickens have a few ups and downs with minor illness/digestion issues and unless we are watching their every move, we usually don't even notice. And they recover without needing any treatment at all

 

[BugStalker]

Her crop empties in mornings. I weighed her, and since the last weighing before Halloween, she's gained 5 ounces. I weighed her again 3 hrs later, with a light crop, and she had gained another 3 oz. She did this last night when I gave her some Nutri-Drench:

I floated it. She did this a few minutes after the last weighing: