Paint silkie questions strange colouring?

luckiestck1

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Hi
I hatched out some paint chicks and a little unsure. They hatched out grey with some yellow on them.
As they have grown they have lightened and have devoloped spots and i have been told they will turn white when mature. Is this normal and how to breed for more normal chick and juvenile colouring?
Will breeding a paint boy and paint pullet together help with this?
 
Do you have pictures of the chicks. Whenever I've hatched chicks with single-factor dominant white, which is what paint is based on, they have been white/yellowish with black spots from the get-go. You can see here; most of the yellow chicks have little dots.
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Do you have any pics?
Sure would help to understand what's going on.
When you ask if breeding two paints together would help make a me curious what was bred in those chicks case. They should of been born yellow with some dark splotches. Most white birds dont turn white.
Paints also don't breed true so two paints also produce solid whites and solid blacks or blues depending on what color paints you're working with.
 
The lady i got them from breeds colour pure and one day one of her whites from her white pen started throwing whites with black spots.
I've noticed as they grow there spots are getting better.
 
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This what they look look resently
 

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White silkies are based on recessive white, which takes two copies to express. You'll never get paint from one of those, unless it is carrying dominant white also. Recessive white covers all pigment, diluting it to that crisp white.

Dominant white is less good at hiding colour, red especially, which is how we get colours like red Pyle. In its single factor form, it is leaky, giving paint, with those black splotches. It is therefore incompletely dominant.

It is plausible then, that the recessive white birds are based on partridge or wildtype; they usually seem to be. This could feasibly be causing the unusual down colouring as a good paint should be based on extended black.
 
White silkies are based on recessive white, which takes two copies to express. You'll never get paint from one of those, unless it is carrying dominant white also. Recessive white covers all pigment, diluting it to that crisp white.

Dominant white is less good at hiding colour, red especially, which is how we get colours like red Pyle. In its single factor form, it is leaky, giving paint, with those black splotches. It is therefore incompletely dominant.

It is plausible then, that the recessive white birds are based on partridge or wildtype; they usually seem to be. This could feasibly be causing the unusual down colouring as a good paint should be based on extended black.
I agree.
Dominate white in silkies is really rare unless they're breeding paints. Its obvious one parent has to have dominate white. Only way I can see it happening without a breeder knowing it is if their white pen has recessive white birds like expected and one bird that is dominate white. Probably unknowingly from a paint line.
I would think the dominate white bird would have to be on extended black or it would have some leakage.
The offspring must be extended black/partridge type and one copy of recessive white and one copy of dominate white.
Breeding those chicks together would give you a surprising amount of various patterns coming from basically two mostly white looking birds.
 
But they start out this strange colour and adults come up as pure white with black spots
 
Ok here is progress of colouring in pics. Cant find day olds pics.
 

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