Paneubert's Quail Aviary Adventure

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The temp hasn't stabilized as of the time of this photo, but the eggs are in. This is a mix of about a dozen eggs that were laid over the past 3 days, and about a dozen that are somewhere between 3-10 days old. None of the eggs were ever refrigerated, but the 3-10 day old ones were left out in the aviary from the time they were laid until I collected them all at once. I tried to segregate them by which group they fell into, but my 4 year old and 2 year old sort of ruined that plan when they started randomly tossing them in the incubator. Ohh well!

One tip that I am sure has been said many times, but I will put it out again as a good factoid...there is not much use in trying to stabilize an empty incubator. There just isn't enough thermal mass to hold a steady temp. I have 5 thermometers in here. One red liquid/glass one you can see in the upper right, the remote probe fish tank one that you can see resting outside on the right top lid, a temp/humidity electronic one you can see in the lower left, another dual temp/humidity that you can't see, and then the built in one that has the red control buttons. When this was running dry and empty, each one read about a degree or two different with a range of about 98-101. I finally said screw it and put the eggs in there knowing that it would drop the temp a lot due to adding a bunch of 60-65 degree eggs. But guess what? When the temp climbed back up, most/all the thermometers leveled out right around each other. Now I am just trying to raise the humidity a bit. I am going to shoot for 40% until lockdown, then raise to about 70%. It is hard to follow all the black wires, but if you notice the black tube going into the hole on the right where you see a red plug on the left, that is some fish tank tubing that I have hooked to a syringe. I have the tubing going down thru one of the egg cups (you can see this on the right side of the control box) and down into one of the water wells. That way I can "inject" water without opening the incubator. I am not planning to candle the eggs at all, so this is mostly going to be a "set it" and wait incubation. I will adjust the temp and humidity as needed, and will put them on the wire during the last 3 days, but other than that I plan to leave it closed. We will see how that goes since I like to mess with things! Hahaha.

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Great job on your aviary (I read all the posts til now, nice pictures too!) and too bad about the rats, I was hoping rats would be more interested in the quail poo/feed/eggs than their meat ;(.

We have had a problem recently with rats burrowing into our chicken coop after a few years of nothing so we are burying some hardware cloth in an L shape, hoping nature doesn't tell the rats to dig down, hit the horizontal hardware cloth, then dig backwards, then down again and then towards the coop.. Lol.

Good luck on your incubation :D do you have a brooder/lamp/red heat lamp/small waterer to prevent drowning/way to grind up the food for the first two weeks/quail starter feed?

If not I'm sure we can help :D
 
View attachment 1048377 Great job on your aviary (I read all the posts til now, nice pictures too!) and too bad about the rats, I was hoping rats would be more interested in the quail poo/feed/eggs than their meat ;(.

We have had a problem recently with rats burrowing into our chicken coop after a few years of nothing so we are burying some hardware cloth in an L shape, hoping nature doesn't tell the rats to dig down, hit the horizontal hardware cloth, then dig backwards, then down again and then towards the coop.. Lol.

Good luck on your incubation :D do you have a brooder/lamp/red heat lamp/small waterer to prevent drowning/way to grind up the food for the first two weeks/quail starter feed?

If not I'm sure we can help :D

Thanks. I went on a massive rat attack spree after I discovered them and managed to stop it for the most part. I think they WERE eating the food as well as the birds since I did notice an increased rate at which I was refilling the feeders. I should have suspected something. I'm not kidding when I say they were smart. They tunneled under the dog house and all sorts of crazy places.

I am going to redo that side of the aviary to better secure it. At one point in my anger I dumped 80 pounds of really soupy concrete down one of their tunnels, so I am going to have to deal with the consequences of that. Hahaha. I still have a TON of hardware cloth (I think I bought a 4 foot by 100 foot roll originally), so it it more about taking the time versus needing to get the supplies.

In my constant collection of crap, I do happen to have a nice red heat lamp bulb and hanging fixture that can handle it. I also for some reason have all the chick sized feeders and waterers I need. How convenient! My wife was not as impressed when I said "SEE.....I knew this stuff would come in handy". Hahaha.
 
Thanks. I went on a massive rat attack spree after I discovered them and managed to stop it for the most part. I think they WERE eating the food as well as the birds since I did notice an increased rate at which I was refilling the feeders. I should have suspected something. I'm not kidding when I say they were smart. They tunneled under the dog house and all sorts of crazy places.

I am going to redo that side of the aviary to better secure it. At one point in my anger I dumped 80 pounds of really soupy concrete down one of their tunnels, so I am going to have to deal with the consequences of that. Hahaha. I still have a TON of hardware cloth (I think I bought a 4 foot by 100 foot roll originally), so it it more about taking the time versus needing to get the supplies.

In my constant collection of crap, I do happen to have a nice red heat lamp bulb and hanging fixture that can handle it. I also for some reason have all the chick sized feeders and waterers I need. How convenient! My wife was not as impressed when I said "SEE.....I knew this stuff would come in handy". Hahaha.

We nearly did the concrete thing as well xD!!

Nice!! Hehe do you happen to have some marbles or other things you can put in the waterer because quail chicks are notorious for drowning in just a little bit of water?
 
So earlier today I got the idea of Deep Litter in my head. We have a giant pile of Arborist/Tree Service chips in our driveway (Probably 8-10 cubic yards worth) that we have been spreading around our house to keep the weeds down. We got rid of our front yard grass completely, etc...

I had some free time after work while the kids were distracted and I just went for it. Ended up being about 4-8 inches deep depending on where you are in the aviary. The ground naturally slopes away from the house, but the bottom of that slope is also where it gets most wet, so that is cool. I will bag a few bags of grass each time I mow and toss it in there as well. Anything has to be better than the half sand/half Sweet PDZ I had going on in there for the past year. Before I laid down the mulch, I scooped out the layers of hardened poop/sand with a "mud shovel". You can see it in one of the photos. Flat shovel with tons of holes in it for draining water, or in this case sifting sand. So the base of this is actually a really fine grain sand layer sitting on top of the original dirt from before the aviary was constructed. Photos are out of order for some reason.
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Posted this in the generic "Incubating" forum, but figured I would post it here for posterity.

Went into lockdown yesterday and found that like many others, removing the egg turner and lowering the eggs further from the heater and fan caused some temperature issues. I have multiple thermometers and humidity monitors in there that up till now were fairly in line with each other, but which now were showing a range from 97 to 102.... I figured it would just take some time to settle in, so I did not touch it until about 12 hours later when things were still overall reading low. So I bumped the temp to 100.5

But now after 24 hours they all still read a large range (with the highest at 102). I noticed the "largest" thermometer (the one that sticks up the most from the floor) was reading the highest, so I cracked the top to stick my laser thermometer in there to spot check some temps (and to put a wet sponge in there since I cant get the humidity up even after filling all the water channels yesterday). And what do I find.....some eggs at 97, some at 102.... Yikes. It seems even a tiny change in elevation makes a big temp difference. Also surprisingly it seems hottest to the sides of the fan and heater, not directly underneath....hmm...

For now I knocked the temp back down to 100. We will see what happens....
 
Hehe that's awesome!! Congrats :D

One thing I noticed with my hatchlings is that if they are given bright light like in your pictures, they tend to look around and peck at everything from the eggshell bits to each other's toes.

I noticed this because the incubator was dim but when we would shine a light to look at the chicks, they would start pecking at everything even each other! Hence why a red heat lamp is better than a bright white one, especially to hide the redness of wounds.

They are attracted to light so I would hold the incubator lid so a few inches were open and shine a light there which would attract the chicks to run over, then my friend would pick up the mostly dry chicks, turn around and put them in the brooder :p

How many do you have now? :D
 

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