Pea chick colors?

[pedda munnangi]

Your IB BS males is yes white eyed but also split to white or pied. Your bird has white flight feathers which means it has some form of white in it's genes. Also if you can catch the hen and open her wings and view the feathers to see if she has white flights as well. If both are split white then you get a white chick, but remember that white chick can also turn out to be a BS chick as well because they look white when hatched. You will find out in a couple weeks when it starts to color up. If the hen has no white flights then the chick SHOULD be IB BS split white if I am correct. It should also inherit the WE gen too so half the eyes will be white - correct Pedda? LMAO!

Excellent my friend Yoda, very true and 100 % correct genetics. Split pied ( one copy of of pied gene ) birds do not show any white any where on the body. Dark pied birds ( carrys two copies of pied gene ) do show white flight feathers and a small throat patch also.. Dark pied x white= all pied chicks.

 

[casportpony]

White flight feathers with a white throat patch is " typical " of split white peafowl. In yearlings. If the - TRAIN - feathers,--- even though short -- have white color at the end, they are carrying a w/e gene. If all of them show white ending, the bird is carrying two copies of w/e gene. Indiablue,, Blackshoulder and spalding males show excellent contrast with two copies of white eye gene and are the prettiest looking to me

Haven't seen any white in their very short train feathers -

Just wishful thinking, I guess, lol.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Question... If I were to breed birds that had both white flights and white throat patches, is there a chance I would get yellow/white chicks?

-Kathy

 

[AugeredIn]

Yes it is possible if they were split white. While in general there are signs that a bird might be split white, pied or white eyed, they don't always hold true. Thus the importance of knowing your birds genetics.

Every black shoulder and every white bird is born yellow no matter what other color they may be. A few days after hatching every other colored bird but white will begin showing darker colors at the ends of the primaries. White birds will not.

 

[pedda munnangi]

White is a pattern ( some people consider as a color). and can be combined with any color genes as well as pattern genes.Black shoulder is also a pattern. Black shoulder split white x Black shoulder split white = white, black shoulder split white, and black shoulder chicks in the ratio of 25: 50:25 ratio.. The pure white looking chicks with white wings are actually blackshoulder, but the two white genes that are also present in these chicks mask every color and pattern. All the blackshoulder chicks , at hatch look yellowish white and some people mistake them for pure white. If you observe these chicks very closely , you will find very light brown, or light peach color on lower half of both the wings. That is a very clear and easily observable difference between white and blackshoulder chicks immediately after hatch and upon complete dryness. There can be white looking peafowl in all colors not just spaldings. example . A white looking peafowl can also carry two bronze genes or two opal genes etc because they occupy a different spot on each choromosome

 

[casportpony]

Yes it is possible if they were split white. While in general there are signs that a bird might be split white, pied or white eyed, they don't always hold true. Thus the importance of knowing your birds genetics.

Every black shoulder and every white bird is born yellow no matter what other color they may be. A few days after hatching every other colored bird but white will begin showing darker colors at the ends of the primaries. White birds will not.

I have no idea what color my adults came from... Five out of six of their chicks from last year have white flights and itty bitty throat patches, but this year only a few of them have white flights, so who knows, right? FWIW, I have two boys with the three hens, neither boy has white, but all three hens do.

-Kathy

 

[pedda munnangi]

Some people did have peafowl without any white flights or white throat patch and no white color any where on the body, but actually the very same bird was truly split to white and did produce white chicks or split white chicks when bred with appropriate partner. I have learnt this on this forum from members with experience.

 

[Yoda]

Like my charcoal pair LMAO!

 

[WestKnollAmy]

Oh wow! Great info, everyone!
I have really learned so much!
I am still amazed over a BS being hatched out yellow as well as a white chick. But the info is fantastic!

And Pedda....I have looked at the chicks wings from the BS pair and I do see the color difference! Most fascinating! I have one white chick from my silver pied over my pied hen and now I can tell them apart in the brooder without looking at the markers!

I wish I had something useful to add to the conversation but all I have are questions. Peas are too new for me and are so different than all the other breeding programs I have or had.

I think I will start a new thread for Purple, too. I have questions about those but would like to leave this one talking about this specific topic so as not to confuse others that may read it.

Thank you, thank you! You all have cleared up a lot of questions for me!

 

[WestKnollAmy]

Oh! I wanted to ask this, too.

WE is always split to white? Is that how the WE is always made? Or if not split to white,can WE be made split to pied?