Peafowl 201: Further Genetics- Colors, Patterns, and More

[KsKingBee]

Java spalding and green spalding .... It's nomined badly!
Spalding is always associated with the name of a color mutation in the species Pavo cristatus.
By IB (Pavo cristatus) there is no color green .... sake my life on it !
Spalding = %tage of green blood = hybrid.

So there is BLUE Spalding .... CAMEO Spalding .... CHARCOAL Spalding .... etc ...

But according to the UPA and top breeders the 'Spaulding' is listed before the color and then the pattern.

Hence; Spaulding - Opal - Black Shoulder . Mutation - color - pattern, in that order followed by the splits.

 

[Birdrain92]

It's species (Indian, Spalding, or Green), than the color (Blue, Cameo, Midnight, Purple, etc.), than the pattern(s) (Black Shoulder, Black Shoulder Pied), if they're split, split is last. In case of Green peafowl, the subspecies will be listed after species. If Spalding or pattern are the only things listed, than it is Blue is implied. If I say I have a Pied peacock, I'm referring to an Indian Blue Pied. If I say I have a Spalding, it's the original "blue" color and wild pattern. If I say Opal, the wild pattern is implied as well as Indian species.

 

[Dany12]

No , you must be more precise. If anyone does not know the peacock he will not understand anything!
Spalding is not a specie it's a hybrid of species.
With the appearance of all kinds of colors, the appointment must change.
like : emerald spalding Cameo,

that's emerald .... not really cameo !

Some pics ... even for the "specialist" it would be necessary to precise the color ...!
ex :

 

[Midnightman14]

Technically speaking there are no IB Cameos since the first birds of that color mutation were all outcrossed to birds of spalding blood. Cameos, Jades, mahogany, and most purples are colors that either first appeared on spalding birds or were outcrossed to spalding birds.

 

[KsKingBee]

@gbaker .... ?

 

[Dany12]

For example .... this bird ... in WHAT is he spalding ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRESALE-3-C...973737?hash=item4661b52b29:g:Qd4AAOSw2gxY0de1

 

[Midnightman14]

Visibly he might not show it but the first birds that appeared as cameos were all outcrossed to spalding birds. As it was the cameo color had alot of issues with vigor so they added in spalding blood to give them better genes. As a consequence there are no cameos alive today that exist as pure ib's.

 

[Birdrain92]

Unfortunately there's no pedigrees to back that up though. The United Peafowl Association does not do a registry like the American Gelbveih Association, American Quarter Horse Association, etc. Not saying you're wrong, it's just no pedigrees to back it up unfortunately. I wouldn't be surprised if they had Spalding in them.

 

[Kedreeva]

It's species (Indian, Spalding, or Green), than the color (Blue, Cameo, Midnight, Purple, etc.), than the pattern(s) (Black Shoulder, Black Shoulder Pied), if they're split, split is last. In case of Green peafowl, the subspecies will be listed after species. If Spalding or pattern are the only things listed, than it is Blue is implied. If I say I have a Pied peacock, I'm referring to an Indian Blue Pied. If I say I have a Spalding, it's the original "blue" color and wild pattern. If I say Opal, the wild pattern is implied as well as Indian species.

You've got it right for order of classification. Spalding birds, although created as a cross-species hybrid, are considered a species for the purposes of nomenclature. That being so, you would list Spalding first in any designation.

But there is one thing I'd like to point out as a part of history with spaldings.

While it is true that the coloration of the wild-type India Blue species is implied if no other color mutation is listed, in the case of Spaldings there was a good bit of confusion over the term "emerald" to refer to Spalding birds whose genotype was 75%+ green. The confusion happened when Spalding birds with a high green phenotype but not necessarily a high green genotype were being listed as Emerald. This led a lot of casual breeder folks to believe there was a green color mutation in the India Blue birds called Emerald when in fact the blue wild-type color still applied genetically to the green-colored Spaldings. Much confusion and a lot of bad blood ensued between folks thinking they were purchasing spaldings with a high green genotype, when in fact it was only a high green phenotype (and a lot of sellers that just plain old did not know better).

So, in order to avoid this sort of confusion (even though its not technically required), in the case of Spalding birds it is still best to state "blue" in your designations, after Spalding and before any pattern mutations.

In the case of cameos etc being all spaldings, I would love to see any record of that, as I'm quite interested in the history and genes aspect of peafowl and this is the first I've ever heard of that. I would imagine that if that is true, by this time in their history listing "Spalding" for all birds of those colors would be unnecessary/redundant unless there was a high enough percentage of green blood to affect breeding decisions. They've all been outcrossed to blues so many times any green blood leftover from the original outcrosses would be more than likely be negligible until crossed again.

 

[Midnightman14]

There's no need for the pedigrees on them. The outcrossing to spaldings happened when there were less than a dozen or so "silver dunns". They were having so many problems with fertility and color that they outcrossed the group to greens and spaldings. After that they had much better luck which suggests the hybrid vigor saved the color just as it did with purples. Hopefully the violetas will escape the issues of the sex linked colors that has damaged the purples and cameos so much.