Peafowl genetics , few questions

[peacock]

Hi,

what comes from an india blue silver-pied male with an opal silver-pied female and a purple female?
same question an india blue white-eye cock with not a lot of white eyes to an india blue white eye hen with a lot of white?
and i have a green, opal, india blue pied with grey barred wings , india blue silver-pied, cameo blackshoulder and the white cock at breeding age, could i do something else to have other colours, i have india blue hen split withr eye, cameo hen, cameo blackshoulder hens, opal hens, opal silver-pied hen, purple pied hen, spalding pied hen, spalding blackshoulder hens, india blue pied hens.

I just can't decide how to pair them up this season,

Thanks already,

Peacock

 

[deerman]

Hi,

what comes from an india blue silver-pied male with an opal silver-pied female and a purple female?
same question an india blue white-eye cock with not a lot of white eyes to an india blue white eye hen with a lot of white?
and i have a green, opal, india blue pied with grey barred wings , india blue silver-pied, cameo blackshoulder and the white cock at breeding age, could i do something else to have other colours, i have india blue hen split withr eye, cameo hen, cameo blackshoulder hens, opal hens, opal silver-pied hen, purple pied hen, spalding pied hen, spalding blackshoulder hens, india blue pied hens.

I just can't decide how to pair them up this season,

Thanks already,

Peacock

Silver pied(blue) X opal silver pied = silver pied(blue) split opal, dark pied white eye split opal, whites( white eye ,also split opal) these will be mask my the white.

be back later with more info.....i have to leave now

 

[Arbor]

That's a lot of choices! One thing I do when I'm pairing up my birds for the year is to decide what I would like to accomplish with the breedings. Technically (on paper anyways) you could pair up different colours, but the offspring will all initially be blue (or white and/or blackshoulder if both carry the gene or if you are using a sex-link coloured male) - very confusing, sorry. With these first generation offspring, records and wing bands are necessary to distinguish what is what. Unfortunately to get two colours to combine to produce a different colour, you would have to breed siblings of the first generation together to get the potential for a new colour - usually 1 in 16 or 32, depending on what your trying to accomplish. I'll be doing several of these crosses this year, but my efforts wont pay off for at least 3 years from now. Its a long term project.

The main thing to decide what you want to accomplish - have a goal in mind or you'll probably end up with birds of all mixed genetic backgrounds that will be difficult to work with.

 

[deerman]

grey ? barred wing .


With the cameo hens only way to get cameo is to pr them with the cameo peacock,

cameo bs peacock to a silver pied hen will give you blue males split pied/white and bs......all cameo female chicks split pied/white and BS.

Myself i would breed the green peacock to spalding hens, to increase the % of green blood

 

[peacock]

Hey Deerman,

i thought the barred wing ground color is golden brown, mine is a bit darker grey than an opal, but for the rest he's a normal india blue pied i think, just the wing feathers are different,


If i breed the silverpied male to the opal siverpied female, can i than create normally with a son to the mother, opal silverpied, opal white eyed, white split opal, opal dark pied an india blue silverpied?

Thanks already for the info Deerman, you are a library of peafowl knowledge,

Greetz Peacock

 

[Arbor]

mine is a bit darker grey than an opal, but for the rest he's a normal india blue pied i think, just the wing feathers are different,

Any chance of a pic? It sounds interesting...

 

[deerman]

Peacock......i pr a blue silver pied X Opal silver pied...remember all chicks will be white eye.

25% white 25% dark pied 50% silver pied....all split opal.


now if you take one of these white X one of the dark pied = 100% silver pied should be 50% blue 50% opal.

thats a brother and sister mating.


now you see why it so important to know what color the white is under the mask, white from the mating at the top. would ready be a blue silver pied white eye ,split opal...you just can't see the color because white is absent of color.

if you mate the silver pied X silver pied chicks together you get the 25%,25%,50% except these white will be 50% opal silver pied white eye, again you will not see the colors. also 50% of the dark pied and silver pied will be opal too.


Now the % are over very large numbers thousands...

 

[peacock]

I will try to get a picture from the pied male when the weather is better, in Belgium we've had rain for two months now, thanks for the info Deerman, i had two silverpied chicks tthis year from the two year old pair and i'm sure the young hen is silverpied opal, so the male is already split opal i would say, if i breed the purple pied hen to this male can i get purple silverpied hens in the first generation,

does anyone have a picture of a young opal blackshoulder female, because i think i bred one from my four opals, but i'm not sure,Greetz Peacock

 

[deerman]

no only way to get a purple ,you will need a male purple or male split purple, its sex link color, now her sons will be split purple, females can't be split to any sex link colors.

 

[peacock]

To Deerman: i thought if you paired a sex-linked female to any other bird you could breed al split males to this colour and 50% other colour females and 50% sex linked colour females, so if this is correct i can breed purple pied females, i already have an upcoming purple pied male, next year he's two, so i can start breeding with him,

peacock