That's most likely what I'll be looking into. My future FIL gave me a price list from Myers in South Forks. IF I can't find the ones I want through other members here, I know I can get from there. Although looking at the shipping costs it might not be a savings to order from there vs TSC as I'd only be order 25 (at most) per order.The colored broilers (red, black, rainbow rangers) have far less problems but grow a bit more slowly. Still really nice birds.