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[BullChick]

Cookie update: Today the big lump under her wing changed from deep purple to an ugly green, that is the 2nd picture, the top of her wing has some green too(1st picture), but there is no open holes or oozing. Is this good????? How do I know if this is a large swollen bruise, or an abscess that needs to be broken open??

Until Fisherlady answers you, I will give my opinion. I am going with a bruise.

 

[fisherlady]

Cookie update: Today the big lump under her wing changed from deep purple to an ugly green, that is the 2nd picture, the top of her wing has some green too(1st picture), but there is no open holes or oozing. Is this good????? How do I know if this is a large swollen bruise, or an abscess that needs to be broken open??

Looks so sore...poor thing...does look more like a bruise, but an abcess is always possible when blood flow in an area is interrupted and infection is present. Abcesses would be very tight or drum feeling, usually with a lighter color in the center usually where skin is stretched tightest and blood can't get into. It would be simple enough to lance and drain the area....a helper to hold bird, an antiseptic wash, a scalpel and a few clean cloths or paper towels... Clean, lance, allow to drain, flush with antiseptic again, cover with triple antibiotic and watch for a few days to see if it refills.

 

[KJ6485]

Looks so sore...poor thing...does look more like a bruise, but an abcess is always possible when blood flow in an area is interrupted and infection is present. Abcesses would be very tight or drum feeling, usually with a lighter color in the center usually where skin is stretched tightest and blood can't get into. It would be simple enough to lance and drain the area....a helper to hold bird, an antiseptic wash, a scalpel and a few clean cloths or paper towels...
Clean, lance, allow to drain, flush with antiseptic again, cover with triple antibiotic and watch for a few days to see if it refills.

Ok, i took note of the size of it tonight, if it is not going down any by tomorrow I will poke it and see if I can get it to drain, i just hope if I poke it that I'm not just poking a swollen bruise!

 

[fisherlady]

 Ok, i took note of the size of it tonight, if it is not going down any by tomorrow I will poke it and see if I can get it to drain, i just hope if I poke it that I'm not just poking  a swollen bruise! 

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Actually a swollen bruise does get lanced sometimes, when an area gets an extreme swelling from blood (bruise) or infection fluid it can interfere with the blood flow to the area, this can cause a condition known as 'compartment syndrome'....
To avoid long term damage from tissue death, nerve damage or gangrene the area is lanced to relieve pressure.....not pretty but a better option than the alternatives. Allowing the fluid which is occupying the interstitial spaces to drain can allow blood flow to return to the area. Blood=oxygen and white blood cells which can then do their job and help the area heal.

 

[KJ6485]

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Actually a swollen bruise does get lanced sometimes, when an area gets an extreme swelling from blood (bruise) or infection fluid it can interfere with the blood flow to the area, this can cause a condition known as 'compartment syndrome'....
To avoid long term damage from tissue death, nerve damage or gangrene the area is lanced to relieve pressure.....not pretty but a better option than the alternatives. Allowing the fluid which is occupying the interstitial spaces to drain can allow blood flow to return to the area. Blood=oxygen and white blood cells which can then do their job and help the area heal.

Alright, that makes sense! Thank you so much for your help. I will keep you posted

 

[chxmama]

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Actually a swollen bruise does get lanced sometimes, when an area gets an extreme swelling from blood (bruise) or infection fluid it can interfere with the blood flow to the area, this can cause a condition known as 'compartment syndrome'....
To avoid long term damage from tissue death, nerve damage or gangrene the area is lanced to relieve pressure.....not pretty but a better option than the alternatives. Allowing the fluid which is occupying the interstitial spaces to drain can allow blood flow to return to the area. Blood=oxygen and white blood cells which can then do their job and help the area heal.

You are amazing.

 

[chxmama]

There are 3 of them. Gray. Dark. Dark with brown face. Lost one after hatch. Lost two during hatch. 1 has a Crack but dunno if it is active. One feels light. 2 still under hen. 3 is a good number to add to flock.

a great number to add!

Yes, Duckling goes to bed in... Anytime in the next hour. First meltdown, and she goes.
I am pretty sure I have it all worked out. We will see how well I did in my planning. LOL
I am hoping it is an easy fix. I may not need more chicks, but I don't want them all (or mostly) dead.
I don't know if I said there are more than eight eggs, and I swear I saw two Pekin eggs.

I think I know what the smell is. We will see if I was right later.
Yeah never know. She could always do better the next time around! You should give her two dozen eggs, and see!

So how did it go?

 

[BullChick]

The deed is done. Three rotten (foamy) eggs. Eleven (OMG!) still in the nest. I am assuming still that they are all from a one week period between the first sitting, and the second. Bonnie was laying on today's eggs. I was going to keep them, but... Eh' I will. About 12 hours is not far enough along.
Anyway, the old multi-purpose room is back to a broody room. I am hoping I can take it back as mine when they are done.
I used to sit out there when the house had my husband and his great-aunt in it. I was her nurse, and she was "spirited" at times (ALL THE TIME!!). I had a dorm fridge, radio alarm clock, chairs and foot rests. I even had a rug. I think now it will be more of a place to hang Duckling's baby swing back up (it was replaced by a tire swing last week) and a chair for me. I can sit and hold a bird or kick the swing for Duckling. I can even add a table for checking out an injury... Except that my landscaper cut my electric wire.

Anyway! I will stop chattering. 2 broodies, one big room, eleven eggs.

 

[fisherlady]

The deed is done. Three rotten (foamy) eggs. Eleven (OMG!) still in the nest. I am assuming still that they are all from a one week period between the first sitting, and the second. Bonnie was laying on today's eggs. I was going to keep them, but... Eh' I will. About 12 hours is not far enough along.
Anyway, the old multi-purpose room is back to a broody room. I am hoping I can take it back as mine when they are done.
I used to sit out there when the house had my husband and his great-aunt in it. I was her nurse, and she was "spirited" at times (ALL THE TIME!!). I had a dorm fridge, radio alarm clock, chairs and foot rests. I even had a rug. I think now it will be more of a place to hang Duckling's baby swing back up (it was replaced by a tire swing last week) and a chair for me. I can sit and hold a bird or kick the swing for Duckling. I can even add a table for checking out an injury... Except that my landscaper cut my electric wire.
Anyway! I will stop chattering. 2 broodies, one big room, eleven eggs.

Nasty job but glad it is done....any broody on eggs gets her eggs marked so new ones can be removed daily. Just a sharpie marker...draw a circle around the middle of the egg, then they are easy to identify no matter how they are positioned in the nest. Anything without a line is an imposter egg and gets removed. Doing this allows us to have all eggs hatch within a day or so rather than risking the problems which occur with a staggered hatch.

 

[BullChick]

Despite her meanness, I should have marked Bonnie's eggs. I am sure in the future I will do it. I have in the past, but... She is so mean!!