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@dheltzel . Dennis, I'm mentioning you because you hatch out so many chicks. I think my (suspected) little Roo has a hatch defect! I just noticed it tonight. It looks like he has a toenail growing out of the side of his feet! He does have feathered legs, but this is much lower and starting to curl. Have you ever seen anything like this before? Could it be because of inbreeding I wonder? I've heard cats grow extra toes when they are inbred... So weird!

Anyone?






I don't recall ever seeing anything like that, but I hatch a lot of chicks each week, so they don't get much close examination. I'm not sure there there are specific traits that are inbreeding markers. The reason we make that association is that many undesirable traits are genetically recessive, that is the only way those traits survive in a population. For example, Cystic Fibrosis is a single gene recessive, both parents must carry it for a child to show symptoms. If it were dominant it would have been eliminated from the gene pool in a single generation, as many no doubt are (some random, unexplained pre-natal/pre-hatch deaths). Because true random mutations are rare, and inbreeding increases the chance of recessives showing up, we think the appearance of recessive trait means inbreeding is involved, and statistically speaking, that is not a bad assumption, but statistics don't apply well to very small sample sets like your chicks.

So, I really have no idea about anything you asked. Sorry.
 
[@=/u/249441/dheltzel]@dheltzel[/@]. Dennis, I'm mentioning you because you hatch out so many chicks. I think my (suspected) little Roo has a hatch defect! I just noticed it tonight. It looks like he has a toenail growing out of the side of his feet! He does have feathered legs, but this is much lower and starting to curl. Have you ever seen anything like this before? Could it be because of inbreeding I wonder? I've heard cats grow extra toes when they are inbred... So weird!


Anyone?



I don't recall ever seeing anything like that, but I hatch a lot of chicks each week, so they don't get much close examination. I'm not sure there there are specific traits that are inbreeding markers. The reason we make that association is that many undesirable traits are genetically recessive, that is the only way those traits survive in a population. For example, Cystic Fibrosis is a single gene recessive, both parents must carry it for a child to show symptoms. If it were dominant it would have been eliminated from the gene pool in a single generation, as many no doubt are (some random, unexplained pre-natal/pre-hatch deaths). Because true random mutations are rare, and inbreeding increases the chance of recessives showing up, we think the appearance of recessive trait means inbreeding is involved, and statistically speaking, that is not a bad assumption, but statistics don't apply well to very small sample sets like your chicks.

So, I really have no idea about anything you asked. Sorry.


No problem. Just a weird thing to see. I will try to find him a home evenually. But if I can't, he will probably be dinner.
 
My little hurt turkey poult is still with us. And he manages to get out of the coop in the morning. He stays under the coop and thankfully Mama and brother stay near by as well. I am just going to let nature take its course, because it doesn't seem to be broken, I don't see any swelling. He seems vibrant enough otherwise and has Mama to look after him. He is also not screaming like he's in terrible pain, but he definitely is trying to hop on one leg.
 
Yes, it was Parkesburg. That was the only time I've had that happen with chicken food from there.

All of this has left me a bit nervous. Got 200 lbs of starter delivered yesterday, I only put it into 2 brooders to "test" the batch. Everything looked happy this morning, so they all got the new stuff.
So many things to have to worry about . . .
 
Morning! Have to read posts but I hope everyone is good! Finally have a day off, hubby is home, and no one else got sick. Shipped samples to Penn state yesterday so we'll see what happens. Little guy that survived is doing well and they are reshipping order today so he'll have freinds soon. Instead of boy packing peanuts I ordered 2 pullets of barred rock, australorp, dark and white/red Cornish and saipian jungle fowl hens? Whatever those are lol. Also got a jumbo Peking girl I named Rose after my grandma
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I think Mercury wants her to be his girlfriend, he has a thing for Pekings lol. And I found some more EEs and the lady has beautiful colors so that should make my daughter happy. All in all definitely a better week so far!
 

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