Pied Toulouse Gosling?

[skaelia]

Hi there!

I have a gosling that was hatched from two French Toulouse parents (from Metzer Farms) with some interesting coloring. This is their first breeding season, and my first time raising them, so I'm not sure if this is normal for Toulouse. I haven't seen any other examples of a saddleback/pied coloring with this breed, but I know it's a possibility with Pomeranians. Could this mean there was some cross breeding in their line? The color doesn't matter to me, I was just curious!

 

[Miss Lydia]

I have no idea on how Toulouse were developed but that sure is a beautiful gosling please post pics fully feathered.

 

[Goosebaby]

I’m sooooo glad you posted this! I got my French Toulouse from Metzer too!

I’ve been researching color genetics because one of my ganders (French Toulouse) has had some goslings with a Classic Roman (also from Metzer.)

Anyway one of the goslings is white, the other has a lot of spotting so she may end up grey with white tipped wings like her grandmother (French Toulouse) or spotted like yours.

From what I’ve learned reading this guide https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/our-guide-to-colour-and-pattern-genetics-in-geese.561779/

The only way I could get a white gosling is if both of the parents are carriers for dilute and spotting, so my Toulouse must have something extra going on in their genes!

Your goose inherited the spotting gene from both of it’s parents, so it seems Metzer’s Toulouse are definite carriers!

Are yours the French Toulouse or dewlap Toulouse? I remember reading somewhere that the difference between the two is that the FT were imported from a farm in France recently and that they aren’t exhibition quality like the Dewlap are, so their stock doesn’t meet the same standards. In other words I wouldn’t doubt that theintermixing occurred somewhere in their heritage and that’s where the color genes came from.

Do you have a picture of the gosling when they first hatched? I just want to compare it to my spotted gosling, im wondering what she’ll look like as an adult.
The two on the left are the half romans, the two on the right are half Buff, so they’ll for sure be grey.

 

[Goosebaby]

I was just on the webpage for the French Toulouse and at the bottom it says

“They are fast growers and make a nice carcass in the fall. Some hatched with tufts and we are offering those as Tufted Toulouse.
With these French Toulouse, you will have geese that are direct descendants of breeders from France - your own authentic Toulouse geese!”

The tufted gene came from somewhere, maybe tufted romans were bred into the French flock? It would explain where the spotted and dilute genes came from.

 

[skaelia]

I have no idea on how Toulouse were developed but that sure is a beautiful gosling please post pics fully feathered.

Thanks, I will!

 

[skaelia]

I’m sooooo glad you posted this! I got my French Toulouse from Metzer too!

I’ve been researching color genetics because one of my ganders (French Toulouse) has had some goslings with a Classic Roman (also from Metzer.)

Anyway one of the goslings is white, the other has a lot of spotting so she may end up grey with white tipped wings like her grandmother (French Toulouse) or spotted like yours.

From what I’ve learned reading this guide https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/our-guide-to-colour-and-pattern-genetics-in-geese.561779/

The only way I could get a white gosling is if both of the parents are carriers for dilute and spotting, so my Toulouse must have something extra going on in their genes!

Your goose inherited the spotting gene from both of it’s parents, so it seems Metzer’s Toulouse are definite carriers!

Are yours the French Toulouse or dewlap Toulouse? I remember reading somewhere that the difference between the two is that the FT were imported from a farm in France recently and that they aren’t exhibition quality like the Dewlap are, so their stock doesn’t meet the same standards. In other words I wouldn’t doubt that theintermixing occurred somewhere in their heritage and that’s where the color genes came from.

Do you have a picture of the gosling when they first hatched? I just want to compare it to my spotted gosling, im wondering what she’ll look like as an adult.
The two on the left are the half romans, the two on the right are half Buff, so they’ll for sure be grey.

Thanks, I'll take a look at that thread! Mine are both French Toulouse. I don't have another picture of the gosling when it was younger, but the pattern was pretty pronounced compared to the others when it hatched. What you said about the tufted Romans makes sense!

 

[Goosebaby]

Thanks, I'll take a look at that thread! Mine are both French Toulouse. I don't have another picture of the gosling when it was younger, but the pattern was pretty pronounced compared to the others when it hatched. What you said about the tufted Romans makes sense!

Thanks for getting back to me! It helps me have a better idea what this little girl will look like, I’m definitly thinking grey with white flight feathers now.

 

[iambebabeba]

Hi there!

I have a gosling that was hatched from two French Toulouse parents (from Metzer Farms) with some interesting coloring. This is their first breeding season, and my first time raising them, so I'm not sure if this is normal for Toulouse. I haven't seen any other examples of a saddleback/pied coloring with this breed, but I know it's a possibility with Pomeranians. Could this mean there was some cross breeding in their line? The color doesn't matter to me, I was just curious!

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Do you have any new pictures of her? I’d love to see what she looks like fully feathered