Plannin tube feed today need some info

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well yes its the same vet he also said he had never heard of tube feeding a chicken that u might could blow them up. I said well this lady (meaning you) did it he said well she may know more than me. he had diff sizes but said this one. so if it goes in the esop. I can feel it. its not supposed to be there right. the esophagusas is right in the middle of the mouth. the throat is off to the right...right?
 
the3ofus+oursixchicks said:
well yes its the same vet he also said he had never heard of tube feeding a chicken that u might could blow them up. I said well this lady (meaning you) did it he said well she may know more than me. he had diff sizes but said this one. so if it goes in the esop. I can feel it. its not supposed to be there right. the esophagus is right in the middle of the mouth. the throat is off to the right...right?
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I have tubed hundreds of birds... pigeons, squabs, ducks, ducklings, chickens, chicks, peafowl, peachicks, turkeys and poults. If he really said you could "blow one up", I'd say he missed some classes while in school, lol, cause I have never heard of that happening, nor do I think it's possible. However, it is possible to overfill the crop, which will cause them to vomit and they could aspirate that vomit.

First, did you listen to and watch *all* of the videos? Because if you did, it should be crystal clear to you that tubing is done to birds of all types, period. Maybe you should have your vet watch the videos.
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Second, did you look at all of the pictures and read all of the text in:

Because you shouldn't be asking the questions you are if you read it. You *do* want to be in the *esophagus*, not the trachea, so you *should* be able to feel the tube on the right side of the neck and the end of it in the crop. If you can feel the end of it in the crop, it is correctly placed.

The hole at the back of the tongue is the trachea - Nothing should ever go in there!
Photo from: http://www.hopkinslivestock.com/peafowl.htm








How To Crop Feed Your Bird Diagram




-Kathy
 
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ok I am about to get this going......one question...so I just put it straight in the right side of the mouth? I will rewatch the videos but I like CLARIFICATION
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I am so stinking scared to do this BUT I HAVE TO DO IT!!!!
 
the3ofus+oursixchicks said:
ok I am about to get this going......one question...so I just put it straight in the right side of the mouth? I will rewatch the videos but I like CLARIFICATION
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I am so stinking scared to do this BUT I HAVE TO DO IT!!!!
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You *do* want to be in the *esophagus*, not the trachea, so you *should* be able to feel the tube on the right side of the neck and the end of it in the crop. If you can feel the end of it in the crop, it is correctly placed.

-Kathy
 
7) My vet told me to give tubefeeds twice a day for as long as my little Rhode Island Red wasn't eating/drinking. He said that the water in the feeds should be enough to hydrate her, as well. Once she was eating a little I should cut back to once a day until she was eating normally and active again. He told me to feel her crop before feeding her it make sure that it wasn't distended and full (meaning the last feeding hadn't passed through into her GI tract). If her crop felt full/hard or she vomited DON"T give more tubefeeds. Get the bird to a vet for medical help.





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this is something I read on one of the post you recommended...my hen is eating some but not enough is that ok to tube her if she is eating and drinking some on her own?
 
Did your vet also tell you that hydration *must* be corrected before tube feeding food? Look, I'm trying my best to help you, but you aren't willing to trust me, so I suggest that you ask your vet to tell you exactly what to do.

http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/07_emergency_and_critical_care.pdf
"A sick or debilitated bird should always have its hydration corrected prior to attempting to initiate oral gavage-feeding."


FLUID THERAPY
Oral Administration
Oral administration is the ideal method of giving fluids. This method is more commonly used in mildly dehydrated birds or in conjunction with subcutaneous (SC) or intravenous (IV) therapy. Oral rehydration (30 ml/kg PO q 6-8 h) also may be used in larger birds (eg, waterfowl) that are difficult to restrain for parenteral fluid therapy.

In case you don't know, gavage feeding = tube feeding and PO means by mouth.

-Kathy
 
Just slow down and think about it for a minute... if you're admitted to the hospital, what's one of the first things they do? Feed you a steak? I think not, they hook you up to a bag of fluids, right?

-Kathy
 
She should be inside where it's warm.

http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/07_emergency_and_critical_care.pdf
"Supportive Care
SICK-BIRD ENCLOSURES
Sick birds are often hypothermic and should be placed in heated (brooder-type) enclosures b (Fig 7.7) in a quiet environment (see Chapter 1, Clinical Practice). A temperature of 85° F (29° C) with 70% humidity is desirable for most sick birds. If brooders are not equipped with a humidity source, placing a small dish of water in the enclosure will often supply adequate humidity. A moist towel that is heated and placed on the bottom of a cage or incubator rapidly humidifies the environment, as indicated by the fogging of the acrylic cage front."

I know you don't have a proper brooder, but she really does need to be in a warm room.

-Kathy
 

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