Please Clarify Something For Me

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

Hooligan:

Sorry for the mistake on identity.

Here is the link to the feed we sell. http://www.homesteadfeeds.com/

I'd still like to know what "nasty additives" you are insistent are in poultry feeds.

Jim

 

[greyfields]

Unfortunately, a nutritional analysis doesn't really give the data needed. It's the source of the components which cause people the most concern. It doesn't give a source for any of the amino acids. And of course the big question is what is in the feed that doesn't appear on the nutritional analysis? If you add up the % on ANY FEED it never reaches 100%, so what else is in there? That's the problem most people have with commercial feed there is always deception as to the ingredients.

The fact the Homestead line claims "no rendered animal protein" is a good start... since 'animal protein' from rendered sources has been shown to contain cats and dogs.

 

[tuskajones]

I still am confused about whether a non-meat-containing feed is okay for the chicken's health. I see that the Purina Sunfresh Flock Raiser ingredients contain DL-methionine. Is this the synthetic amino acid that is added to make up for the missing animal/fish protein?

I am still considering which feed to use on my broilers: Sunfresh Flock Raiser or Dumor brand with meat-by-products (I assume--haven't read the label yet). Would the broilers grow okay on the Flock Raiser (20% protein) even though there is no meat protein in it? It would be nice (I think) to say they were raised with no meat by products in their feed.

Thanks for any clarification!

 

[hooligan]

Some of the nasty additives are the rendered animal products (which may have been from diseased animals), like greyfields mentioned. Also I don't like the idea that some companies put antibiotics in their feeds, if my chickens are sick they go to the vet or I treat them if its nothing major. The don't need ABs everyday. It makes them build up a resistance to them when they do actually need them.
I love the fact that your feed has not ABs or animal renderings! Too bad my feed store didn't carry your stuff

 

[greyfields]

Like I said, the sources do make a difference. Almost all feed contains bone meal as a source of calcium and phosphorus. What did it come from? Is it chicken bones? Most bags of bone meal don't tell you the origin. And all too often feed manufacturer's just look at the bag, the % calcium and tend to look the other way.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

Greyfields:

Your assessment is completely incorrect on Meat and Bone Meal. With the naming of RUMINANT meat and bone meal as "specific risk" materials, most if not all feed manufacturers have very specific and strict fules to follow on purchasing and handling of Meat and Bone Meal. Most companies now use ONLY Porcine Meat and Bone meal since it is not specific risk to remove the chance of ruminant feeds being contaminated with Ruminant Meat and Bone Meal.

With the impending price increase of Monocalcium and Dicalcium Phosphates, many feed mills are looking to using Meat and Bone Meal as a cheaper source of calcium and phosphorus, but their use will follow the current regulations and more than likely will be Porcine or Chicken unless you are in a pork or poultry onlyh plant.

Jim