Please help - did i pull the scab right bumble foot??

[aprilbos]

On 8/5 I pulled off a scab from a bumble foot infection on one of my chicken's feet.
I attached to the scab is what looks like the corn or at least part of it. i haven't done the 2nd foot yet, I need a little confirmation if what I did helped her or if I set her back. I was timid and probably took too long to do it.



I first noticed her limp 2 weeks ago and saw it on one foot. It's on the bottom of both feet (I must have missed it when i checked)

Based on the pictures:
Did I get out enough of the puss?
Did I get the corn?
Do I need to start an antibiotic?
Do I repeat the process on the 2nd foot?

Treatment so far:
Soak in warm epsom salt water
Clean with hydrogen peroxide
Apply drawing salve and / or blu kote (A combination of one of these or sometimes both) and wrapped it.
Repeated daily or every other day.

Sunday 8/7 - removed scab, squeezed out white puss, used a tweezers to clean up some bits. Rinsed it hyd. prox., neosporin & wrapped. pics of scab attached

Monday (one day after left foot scab removal) I skipped the soaking, wiped clean with hydrogen peroxide, neosporin and wrapped. pics of progress attached

I'm leaving town tomorrow morning for a week. My chickens will be checked on daily and a friend who has his own hens will be here every 3rd day and available if needed (he has not had to deal with bumble foot in his own flock)

Questions:
Do I tackle the 2nd foot before leaving?
Do I push harder and try to get more puss out of the 1st one?
Do I start an antibiotic and have it continued while I'm gone?

Future preventive measures in place or in the works.

Thank you for your help -
Pictures include:
back of scab
front of scab (ignore goofy lighting)
open wound after removing bandage yesterday
left foot with scab (now removed)
right foot scab

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

The pictures didn’t show up. @KikisGirls can help you, she helped me when my birds had bumble foot.

 

[ButtonquailGirl14]

pic?

 

[aprilbos]

The pictures didn’t show up. @KikisGirls can help you, she helped me when my birds had bumble foot.

pictures are now up - thank you

 

[aprilbos]

pic?

Pictures should now be up. thank you

 

[aprilbos]

Pictures include:
back of scab
front of scab (ignore goofy lighting)
open wound after removing bandage yesterday
left foot with scab (now removed)
right foot scab

 

[Eggcessive]

Here are a couple of good links about treating bumblefoot along with videos of the surgery:
https://www.hobbyfarms.com/how-to-treat-bumblefoot-in-chickens-3/
https://the-chicken-chick.com/bumblefoot-causes-treatment-warning/

 

[aprilbos]

Update: the first foot is healing

I removed the scab from the 2nd foot and I couldn't get any blood or white puss to come out. It was almost dried out already under the scab.

I checked my other 3 chickens. (buff, australorp, wyandotte, rhode island) 2 are larger size birds, 2 are smaller size. They all have scabs of different sizes on all of their feet. How is that even possible!!??

I use sand and dirt in the run, because of sour crop with one bird they haven't been out of coop/ run very much. I clean it too much if anything. The roost bar is not too high, it has now been replaced with a 4 in width flat wooden board vs 2 in.

My coop is currently split into two independent coops with two chickens on each side. They were split up for a while due to pecking issues, now that they will all have bandages on feet during the time, should I remove the separating wall in my coop? Is it a good time for them to socialize because they will be slower moving?

Do I have to touch every single foot and remove the scabs? Some of them are so small, I'm hoping I can soak and blue kote until gone. Thanks for any advice you can offer and thank you for sharing the above article links.

buff - 2nd foot with scab removed.


rhode island (red) - L and R foot (right foot has drawing salve and wrapped)


speckles - L and R foot (right foot has drawing salve and wrapped)


blacky - not shown (2 small scabs on bottom similar to speckles left side)

 

[Chickassan]

If you're going to socialise them doing it while everyone has the same disadvantage is actually a very good idea. The small bumbles might be able to be softened with vegtable glycerin and simply pulled out.

 

[Eggcessive]

Bumblefoot can occur if the chickens get small cuts from the ground from little sharp rocks, and if they are running around on muddy ground or have wet or soiled bedding in the coop, it can also cause bumblefoot (footpad dermatitis.). I see a lot of it in my flock because of rocky soil, and most I just ignore if it is not serious. When it causes redness or a lot of swelling, or limping in the chicken, I will do the surgery. Some people claim they never see it, but it depends on the ground and conditions. Soaking the feet in Epsom salts water may help to get the foot ready for surgery, or to help heal mild cases.