poor growth of chicks

[chimex]

Hello, am having a serious problem with my 4 weeks old broiler chick, they seem not to be growing though feed well, they look like a week or two weeks old birds .Recently they started sleeping while standing with there head turked in as if they were cold, i taught it was maybe brooded pneumonia so i gave them some garlic water and cleaned of there dropings, bt yet no change, noticed some blood in there droping, quickly gave them an anti cocci drug,bt still they are still ill. In the space of three days lost about 20 birds and they still look so weak, some even find it difficult to walk and eat. Am really out of options and heart broken because i might likely lose more. Pls i need serious help with them they weren't like dis the first 3 weeks

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Hello, am having a serious problem with my 4 weeks old broiler chick, they seem not to be growing though feed well, they look like a week or two weeks old birds .Recently they started sleeping while standing with there head turked in as if they were cold, i taught it was maybe brooded pneumonia so i gave them some garlic water and cleaned of there dropings, bt yet no change, noticed some blood in there droping, quickly gave them an anti cocci drug,bt still they are still ill. In the space of three days lost about 20 birds and they still look so weak, some even find it difficult to walk and eat. Am really out of options and heart broken because i might likely lose more. Pls i need serious help with them they weren't like dis the first 3 weeks

Welcome to BYC

I'm sorry for your loss.
Can you post some photos of your chicks and how they are housed?
What "Anti-Cocci" medication are you giving and a what dosage?
What type of feed are you using?
Are they still in a brooder? How much space do they have, are you still providing heat?
How many do you have?

Blood in droppings is usually a sign of Coccidiosis. Treatment is with Corid that is found at your local feed store.
Encourage them to drink if you can, they can become dehydrated quickly.


Here is the Corid dosage for Cocci is 1 1/2 teaspoons Corid powder per gallon or 2 teaspoons of 9.6% Corid liquid per gallon.
Give for 5-7 days - make sure this is the ONLY water available during that time period. Mix a fresh batch at least once a day.

Let us know how they are doing.

 

[3riverschick]

Maybe the birds have necrotic enteritis? Lots of info and answers here from the worldwide commercial poultry industry. See anything familiar in the "Look Think Act" section? I have food the people at these companies very helpful and willing to share. Maybe try Biomin? Nice folk. Or Hamlet, they specialize in feeding the "young" baby creatures.
Best,
Karen

http://www.worldpoultry.net/Broilers/
http://www.allaboutfeed.net/Special-focus/
Gut health
Enzymes
Feeding Young Animals
Feed Technology
Managing Mycotoxins
Yeast Special
Mycotoxin Special
Enzyme Special
Salmonella Special
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Oct 26, 2016
Mitigate necrotic enteritis in broilers with butyrate
http://www.worldpoultry.net/Health/Articles/2016/10/Mitigate-necrotic-enteritis-in-broilers-with-butyrate-2905382W/?cmpid=NLC|worldpoultry|2016-10-26|Mitigate_necrotic_enteritis_in_broilers_with_butyrate
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Probiotic supplementation leads to lower coccidian lesion scores
News • Aug 18, 2016 13:05 GMT
http://chr-hansen-returns.mynewsdes...leads-to-lower-coccidian-lesion-scores-179982
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http://www.worldpoultry.net/Digital-magazine/?intcmp=header actie
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Look Think Act ( I love this section)
There's something odd about these chicks
http://www.worldpoultry.net/Health/...eek:_There's_something_odd_about_these_chicks

 

[3riverschick]

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/p...verview_of_necrotic_enteritis_in_poultry.html
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publications/6/diseases-of-poultry/184/necrotic-enteritis/
Diagnosing clostridial enteric disease in poultry
http://vdi.sagepub.com/content/25/3/314
Products to alleviate the effects of necrotic enteritis and aflatoxin
on growth performance, lesion scores, and mortality in young broilers
Full Text (HTML)Free
Full Text (PDF)Free
http://japr.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/2/145.full
Virginiamycin Effects on Controlling Necrotic Enteritis Infection in Chickens1
http://ps.oxfordjournals.org/content/61/3/447.short
full text pdf available
Factors Affecting Intestinal Health in Poultry
This paper reviews the GI tract from developmental, immunological, and
microbial standpoints and then discusses factors that can affect health
status of this system. Necrotic enteritis and coccidiosis and their
interactions, and possible consequences of antibiotic growth promoter
removal from poultry diets with respect to these diseases, are discussed
in more detail. (2008)
http://ps.oxfordjournals.org/content/87/10/2052.full
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The effects of necrotic enteritis, aflatoxin B1, and
virginiamycin on growth performance, necrotic enteritis
lesion scores, and mortality in young broilers (2013)
http://ps.oxfordjournals.org/content/92/8/1997.full
excerpt:
"Necrotic enteritis is a common infectious disease in broiler production.
The actual cost of necrotic enteritis to the industry is unknown, but
estimates are $2 to 3 billion in the United States due to the poor
performance of infected birds and the cost of treatment (McDevitt et al.,
2006; Lee et al., 2011). The disease develops when Clostridium perfringens,
normally found in the gastrointestinal tract of poultry (Al-Sheikhly and
Truscott, 1977) in small numbers, proliferates rapidly. This can be triggered
by a variety of reasons including high dietary protein (Drew et al., 2004),
coccidiosis (Ficken and Wages, 1997), or high viscosity diets (Jia et al., 2009).
Clostridium perfringens produces toxins that cause the disease symptoms of
necrotic enteritis: intestinal lesions, decreased water and feed intake,
growth depression, and death. Antibiotics such as virginiamycin are used to
prevent necrotic enteritis (George et al., 1982). McReynolds et al. (2004) showed
that immunocompromised broilers had more severe responses to a necrotic enteritis
challenge. The synergistic effect of aflatoxin and endotoxin lipopolysaccharide,
a gram-negative bacterial cell wall, on growth performance reduction and an
increase of mortality has been demonstrated in broilers and turkeys (Guaiume, 2005).
An interaction of aflatoxin and infectious bursal disease in broilers has also
been reported (Mahajan et al., 2002). However, the interaction of aflatoxicosis
and necrotic enteritis has not been studied previously, even though the 2 diseases
are commonly observed in the field. Therefore, the objective of the present study
is to investigate the outcomes and relationships when aflatoxin and necrotic enteritis
challenges are given simultaneously in broilers and their interactions with
dietary virginiamycin as model development for future research."
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http://hamletprotein.com/en/young-animals/
Call Hamlet. They are in Findley, OH , USA Tell them what is happening with your Broilers. Explain the symptoms. They can probably tell you what is wrong. Ask what products they have that can help.
If it is necrotic enteritis, you need to move fast. One of the biggest areas of research in the worldwide poultry and broiler industry is learning how to supplement for a healthy gut without antibiotics. That is Hamlet's specialty. Getting the young off to a strong start without antibiotics.
Best,
Karen
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[chimex]

Welcome to BYC

I'm sorry for your loss.
Can you post some photos of your chicks and how they are housed?
What "Anti-Cocci" medication are you giving and a what dosage?
What type of feed are you using?
Are they still in a brooder?  How much space do they have, are you still providing heat?
How many do you have?

Blood in droppings is usually a sign of Coccidiosis.  Treatment is with Corid that is found at your local feed store.
Encourage them to drink if you can, they can become dehydrated quickly.


Here is the Corid dosage for Cocci is 1 1/2 teaspoons Corid powder per gallon or 2 teaspoons of 9.6% Corid liquid per gallon.
Give for 5-7 days - make sure this is the ONLY water available during that time period. Mix a fresh batch at least once a day.

Let us know how they are doing.

They are 200 in number, lost about 20 nw. The anti cocci i give them is called cocci stop, gotten from a vet here in Nigeria, at day time, they look so active eating and jumping around, BT before i step out a bit and come back two or more will be dead. Don't really know there problem. Planing on taking one of the dead once to a vet for diagnosing today to see wat might be wrong with them

 

[Wyorp Rock]

They are 200 in number, lost about 20 nw. The anti cocci i give them is called cocci stop, gotten from a vet here in Nigeria, at day time, they look so active eating and jumping around, BT before i step out a bit and come back two or more will be dead. Don't really know there problem. Planing on taking one of the dead once to a vet for diagnosing today to see wat might be wrong with them

Taking one to the vet is your best bet in finding out what is going on.

I hope you are able to fix the problem. Let us know.

 

[chimex]

Gave them the drug recommended by the vet. Still lost couple of birds today those that were severely ill, but the others seem to be OK, few still looking miserable BT hoping they get better, need them to pass this stage so that i will stuff them with food to recover lost weight. So if any good weight gaining suppliment u guys know, pls share with me.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

@ChickenCanoe any suggestions on feeding broilers in Nigeria?

 

[Pork Pie]

Gave them the drug recommended by the vet. Still lost couple of birds today those that were severely ill, but the others seem to be OK, few still looking miserable BT hoping they get better, need them to pass this stage so that i will stuff them with food to recover lost weight. So if any good weight gaining suppliment u guys know, pls share with me.

You may be better just to give them growers food, or maybe move directly to finisher mash (likely to have a higher fat content, I'd imagine). Haven't lived there for over 20 years, so I'm not sure what feeds you have available. Hope you weren't 419'd with those chicks.

Best of luck

 

[chimex]

Already giving them finisher, even with this drugs given to them yesterday yet still having casualties, four died this morning and some still look seriously sick and missing the little weight they have