Porcelain OEGB Project

[Nicks_Chicks]

Hey, so next year I plan to try to make porcelain OEGB. I'm gonna definitely use Mille Fleur OEGB from Cackle hatchery but I'm not sure where I should incorporate the lavender gene from. Do you guys think I should use lavender OEGB or Porcelain D'uccles? Using the D'uccles takes care of color for the most part, but you have the muffs and feathered shanks to deal with. With using the Lav OEGB, all other physical traits are take care of, but then the color is some weird black with gold leakage type thing probably. Interested to year ya'll's thoughts!
@Yard Farmer
@NatJ
@MysteryChicken

 

[Bigtom Turkey]

I don't know much about these topic. But I do know that feathered legs take multiple generations to get rid of. So, if you use them just plan accordingly. I've seen beards turn up after 2 or 3 generations too.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Hey, so next year I plan to try to make porcelain OEGB. I'm gonna definitely use Mille Fleur OEGB from Cackle hatchery but I'm not sure where I should incorporate the lavender gene from. Do you guys think I should use lavender OEGB or Porcelain D'uccles? Using the D'uccles takes care of color for the most part, but you have the muffs and feathered shanks to deal with. With using the Lav OEGB, all other physical traits are take care of, but then the color is some weird black with gold leakage type thing probably. Interested to year ya'll's thoughts!
@Yard Farmer
@NatJ
@MysteryChicken

(Edit) I would skip over the D'uccles, & not use them.

Could instead just use the Self Blue OEGBs, & Breed to Spangled/Mille Fleur OEGBs as a short cut rather then breeding out unwanted traits from the D'uccles.

 

[NatJ]

Hey, so next year I plan to try to make porcelain OEGB. I'm gonna definitely use Mille Fleur OEGB from Cackle hatchery but I'm not sure where I should incorporate the lavender gene from. Do you guys think I should use lavender OEGB or Porcelain D'uccles? Using the D'uccles takes care of color for the most part, but you have the muffs and feathered shanks to deal with. With using the Lav OEGB, all other physical traits are take care of, but then the color is some weird black with gold leakage type thing probably. Interested to year ya'll's thoughts!

Maybe try both? If you use a Mille Fleur OEGB rooster, you could use both types of hens for the first generation, then do different crosses in the second generation, and see which looks most promising. You might end up using some of both, or going with just one set or the other.

I think I might start by crossing Porcelain d'Uccle with Lavender OEGB. All chicks will show lavender, and they will carry all the genes you want as well as the genes you do not want. They will probably look like leaky lavenders.

Then cross those leaky lavender F1 chicks to a Mille Fleur OEGB, hatch a very large number of chicks, and start culling. Every chick is guaranteed to have the lavender gene, and every chick will have at least one set of the genes for the Mille Fleur pattern. The traits you do not want are mostly caused by dominant genes, so once they are gone, they are GONE! If you hatch enough chicks, you may be able to pick ones that have all the traits you want (basically Mille Fleur colored with OEGB other traits), and breed them together to get about 1/4 showing Porcelain and the other 3/4 showing Mille Fleur color.

If you can't get chicks with all the right traits, pick what looks like the best options and work on the other traits over the next few generations. I would expect about 1/4 of chicks to have the Mille Fleur coloring, half of them to have clean faces, less than half of those to have clean feet. So you might have to hatch over a hundred chicks to get a few of the correct ones. The blacks and the feathered feet will be visible at hatch, so you can cull those chicks right away (selling chicks is one way to "cull" them, because it gets them out of your breeding project.)

There are plenty of other ways to do the breeding and selecting. This is just one possible path.

 

[MysteryChicken]

This guy here is Isabel, but parents weren't Lavender.
He's a mix of Silkie/Blue Face Hatch X Mille Fleur D'uccle/OEGB/Silkie X Blue Face Hatch.

 

[Nicks_Chicks]

I don't know much about these topic. But I do know that feathered legs take multiple generations to get rid of. So, if you use them just plan accordingly. I've seen beards turn up after 2 or 3 generations too.

Yeah feathered feet take two gens.

 

[Nicks_Chicks]

Thanks for all the input guys!

 

[MysteryChicken]

Yeah feathered feet take two gens.

1-2 copies. 1 copy gives less feathered feet.

 

[Nicks_Chicks]

1-2 copies. 1 copy gives less feathered feet.

Yeah. In F1 crosses, they will all have feathered feet, and in f2, is when I can get non feathered footed crosses

 

[NatJ]

Yeah feathered feet take two gens.

I initially read that as "two genes" needed for a chicken to have feathered feet.
But then I realized you might mean "two generations" to get rid of feathered feet.