Possible Coccidiosis - should I start Coxoid

[ktisathome]

My three precious ex-bats were all very poorly on Monday. I described symptoms and poops to the vet and the brilliant British Hen Welfare Trust helpline and they both thought it was coccidiosis.

The vet couldn't prescribe small dose drugs so it has taken until today to get some Coxoid which I have not started.

I ACVd them as soon as they started looking poorly. The girls all seem much better today, they have eaten, they are noisy and a bit more bouncy. 2/3 have laid today. There are lots of fairly normal poops in the run and I can't see any of those horrid white runny poops with red in.

Has this been a false alarm?

Can they recover from Coccidiosis this quickly?

How long before I know if they're in the clear?

Should I treat them with the Coxoid just in case. I don't want a relapse.

I have not been able to get a poop test done.

I've only had hens for 3 months so everything new that happens is still very scary.

Thanks for your help.

Katie

(Lola, Fraidy and Tink)

 

[ChickenCanoe]

If Coxoid is an amprolium drug like Corid that we have here, I would go ahead and treat them. It won't hurt anything.
Ex battery hens that have been in cages have never been exposed to coccidia so it is very likely that they had problems with their first exposure. With small exposures, they develop resistance but getting a lot of oocysts at once can cause coccidiosis.
While you're doing this make sure you keep the bedding bone dry. That prevents the completion of they life cycle.

 

[Lady of McCamley]

If Coxoid is an amprolium drug like Corid that we have here, I would go ahead and treat them. It won't hurt anything.
Ex battery hens that have been in cages have never been exposed to coccidia so it is very likely that they had problems with their first exposure. With small exposures, they develop resistance but getting a lot of oocysts at once can cause coccidiosis.
While you're doing this make sure you keep the bedding bone dry. That prevents the completion of they life cycle.

x2

I treat even if the bird appears to be gaining ground if I've had a good scare...it is so easy for that to go south very quickly.

Agreed...if it is like Corid in the states (liquid Amprolium), generally a couple of days treatment is sufficient (I think the recommendation is 5 days for Corid).

Coccidiosis is not a disease to get behind of, and their systems need to adjust to your new environment.

The ACV and additional yogurt will definitely help build the gut flora to help keep everything in balance...another thing which is surely off in battery hens.

LofMc

 

[Sutremaine]

Coxoid is 3.84% amprolium hydrochloride. I haven't been able to find anything stronger off the shelf in the UK.

 

[casportpony]

Coxoid is 3.84% amprolium hydrochloride. I haven't been able to find anything stronger off the shelf in the UK.

It will work, you just have to use more of it.

-Kathy

 

[ktisathome]

I've started the coxoid and they are already more bouncy. I'm using the dosage on the bottle (6.22ml per litre) for 7 days, is that wrong? I know it's for pigeons, and assumed chooks would need more, but they're getting a higher dose because they drink much more. Do you know the egg withdrawal period?

 

[Lady of McCamley]

I've started the coxoid and they are already more bouncy. I'm using the dosage on the bottle (6.22ml per litre) for 7 days, is that wrong? I know it's for pigeons, and assumed chooks would need more, but they're getting a higher dose because they drink much more. Do you know the egg withdrawal period?

I generally just use the dosage as appropriate on the bottle as given for the species...you may have to look up chicken dosage for Coxoid....and give the recommended days for treatment.

Medicines differ in dilution, and sometimes in chemical make up, so the dosages will be different from one brand to the next.

Generally egg withdrawal is 10 to 14 days from last day of treatment. I do know people who've eaten eggs after Amprolium and lived to tell the tale, but I would toss until 14 days after treatment.

LofMc

 

[ricebabyca]

I've started the coxoid and they are already more bouncy. I'm using the dosage on the bottle (6.22ml per litre) for 7 days, is that wrong? I know it's for pigeons, and assumed chooks would need more, but they're getting a higher dose because they drink much more. Do you know the egg withdrawal period?

I did the math real quick and that seems like the correct amount. When treating pigeons, poultry, gamebirds, waterfowl, etc, here in the US it's 912-960 mg per gallon (128 ounces), which end up medicating the water to ~0.024%.

In the US, the mfg and FDA say to treat at this level for 5-7 days, then to treat at 0.006% for another 7 days. So if you did that, you would give 1.55ml per liter day 8-14.

In AU someone said their product says 7 days at 0.024%, then 7 days at 0.012% and finally 7 days at 0.006%.

In the US there is no egg withdrawal.

Edited to change 0.12% to 0.012%

 

[Sutremaine]

It will work, you just have to use more of it.

-Kathy

...And pay through the nose for it, most likely. When it comes to working out how much of an active ingredient you get in a container, how do millilitres convert to milligrams?

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Sorry I didn't reply to this... looks like somehow I got unsubscribed. Coxoid is 3.84 % amprolium which means that there are 38.4 mg amprolium per 1 ml.

-Kathy