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[HallFamilyFarm]

I don't for see any problems with chocolate as the variety name. It will be the first choc color description for chickens. I will just need a color standard description along the way. The partridge Chanteclers were put into the SOP before I was born, so I'm home free on that one.

Walt

I heard the Partridge Chantecler Standards Committee was very hard nosed! Not softies like today's committee!

 

[fowlman01]

I heard the Partridge Chantecler Standards Committee was very hard nosed! Not softies like today's committee!

Some people think we hard nosed and unreasonable, but it is usually people who have never dealt with us.

Walt

 

[aveca]

that is the key word..moderatly..that makes sence on a bird so big..but im going to do some as i want ..the above bantams both chocolate and several others are what i mean..those are not really long...they look in balance..everything forms a nice outline.

If you are trying to keep the Orps meeting the SOP description, it is not a matter of what you like, it is a matter of meeting the APA Standard. The SOP says. "Moderately long, lower body feathers not too profuse. Tail moderately long, well spread carried at an angle of 25 degree's".

People can breed and raise whatever they like, but if you plan on showing in the USA that is the description judges should be using.

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

that is the key word..moderatly..that makes sence on a bird so big..but im going to do some as i want ..the above bantams both chocolate and several others are what i mean..those are not really long...they look in balance..everything forms a nice outline.

The back is moderately long and so is the tail, so pretty soon you have some additional length. A Plymouth Rock is "rather long" to give you an idea. long is long, long it is not medium or anything else. They say moderately long to define the length. . From what I have seen it should be very simple to get a short back in an Orp, since some are that way now. .. When these birds go for the qualifying meet they better have moderately long backs or they won't pass. Everyone who is not involved in that can make them with any kind of back that pleases them. The key word is....long however, if they are to meet the SOP description.

What you are seeing in the Imported Orp thread is not a always a way to judge what a US Orp is supposed to look like. You are looking at a picture not a Standard. Read the SOP and then look at the picture. A picture doesn't make the bird correct, the SOP description does...that applies to any chicken.

Walt

 

[Don Chandler]

The back is moderately long and so is the tail, so pretty soon you have some additional length. A Plymouth Rock is "rather long" to give you an idea. long is long, long it is not medium or anything else. They say moderately long to define the length. . From what I have seen it should be very simple to get a short back in an Orp, since some are that way now. .. When these birds go for the qualifying meet they better have moderately long backs or they won't pass. Everyone who is not involved in that can make them with any kind of back that pleases them. The key word is....long however, if they are to meet the SOP description.

What you are seeing in the Imported Orp thread is not a always a way to judge what a US Orp is supposed to look like. You are looking at a picture not a Standard. Read the SOP and then look at the picture. A picture doesn't make the bird correct, the SOP description does...that applies to any chicken.

Walt

Walt

Walt, on a std you are to see at least 2 in of the leg, what is it for a bantam?

 

[fowlman01]

Walt, on a std you are to see at least 2 in of the leg, what is it for a bantam?

Don, I don't go by inches, it says you need to see the hock.

Walt

 

[Don Chandler]

Don, I don't go by inches, it says you need to see the hock.

Walt

Walt, where in the standard does it say see the hock. I can't find it.

 

[fowlman01]

Walt, where in the standard does it say see the hock. I can't find it.

Pg 102 of the 2010 SOP.......under Orps......see body and fluff and then under fluff....."moderately full, showing the profile of the hock". All Orp breeders should also read on the same page the last paragraph of the Orp intro. It concerns plumage.

Walt

 

[Don Chandler]

Pg 102 of the 2010 SOP.......under Orps......see body and fluff and then under fluff....."moderately full, showing the profile of the hock". All Orp breeders should also read on the same page the last paragraph of the Orp intro. It concerns plumage.

Walt

Walt, I don't think we could ever pull this choc bantam deal off. I know the feathers on the chocs are real bad, but I don't think my blacks would work either.

 

[OSUman]

Walt, I don't think we could ever pull this choc bantam deal off. I know the feathers on the chocs are real bad, but I don't think my blacks would work either.

Dont give up, just have to breed breed breed! Plus I can kinda see the hocks on my birds LOL