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so true! Had I not stopped by this site, I never would have found your fantastic birds.....and because of them, a happy happy show year this last year..and more in the years to come..thats too bad that people dont give credit where credit is due...Boy I do..I tell everyone where mine came from..everyone knew how I was struggleing with the aussies year after year..so bought a scant few orps from you..and its really amaznig when you think about it that out of only 6 chicks , you can find a BB and champion english as well as a special award for best orpington BV abd RV at an APA show, that is a testamony to a great breeding program..all I had to do was fit feed and show...I knew that cockeral was good but didnt know he was that good..just hard to take points away from him....very minimal fussing...not only that but the extra cockerals that Steve took, at his very first show, it was a much smaller show he was reserve show LF..what a thrill..I felt like the jepordy champion that day..no words to describe it..I would like to leave the breeding expertise to you and I will just go show cause that is what I like to do....comes from my old horse show days...I will keep at the aussies and a few out of your champions to keep a line going but plan to contact you this next spring for more..husband wants some buffs..at your web site there is a knockout blk hen..we just love her..go oggle over her once in a while..