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[HallFamilyFarm]

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Though it may not be an Orpington, I believe Mohawk, the famous Rhode Island Red was a great example of a Prepotent male in the poultry world.

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[galanie]

Prepotency in critters is a phenomenom that no body has figured out. I made a bet with a horse friend about Secretaritat. He wanted a colt. I wanted a filly sired by him He thought I was nuts. We bet $100. Knowing that Mother Nature likes to skip a generation to ensure survival of the species through genetic diversity, and knowing that Secretariat 's mother's sire was Princequillo, a known broodmare sire, I figured that he would produce great females. I was called nuts for discounting the great Bold Ruler, his sire.. Guess what...Secretariat never sired exemplary colts , but his fillies are priceless. They are prepotent for the most part.

Something many will find interesting... Studies done in AI in sheep at Perdue, verified that ova are immune to the same genetic combination that was last produced.The identical  sperm are walled out. So if you get a great breeding; next time breed out. Then breed back. The ova will no longer be immune. The great producing mare, Hildene, was bred this way, and produced top stakes winners in every crop, while Man O' War's mom was never bred to another stallion except for his sire, Fair Play. He was never replicated.

I can't believe that chickens are any different. How many families have you seen where the first child looks like Mom, the second like Dad, and so on?

I tried to read this through the first time but all I could think of was, " She had a mare out of SECRETARIAT????" I now worship you. He ran that famed Triple Crown when I was riding Hunter/Jumpers and I even had a poster of him until not all that long ago haha. It cracked and tore with age.

Anyway, if I hear you right, you're saying that if you get a great offspring, breed her to a different male, then breed to the same one again to try to replicate.

 

[Johnn]

 

[wekiva bird]

Prepotency in critters is a phenomenom that no body has figured out. I made a bet with a horse friend about Secretaritat. He wanted a colt. I wanted a filly sired by him He thought I was nuts. We bet $100. Knowing that Mother Nature likes to skip a generation to ensure survival of the species through genetic diversity, and knowing that Secretariat 's mother's sire was Princequillo, a known broodmare sire, I figured that he would produce great females. I was called nuts for discounting the great Bold Ruler, his sire.. Guess what...Secretariat never sired exemplary colts , but his fillies are priceless. They are prepotent for the most part.

Something many will find interesting... Studies done in AI in sheep at Perdue, verified that ova are immune to the same genetic combination that was last produced.The identical sperm are walled out. So if you get a great breeding; next time breed out. Then breed back. The ova will no longer be immune. The great producing mare, Hildene, was bred this way, and produced top stakes winners in every crop, while Man O' War's mom was never bred to another stallion except for his sire, Fair Play. He was never replicated.

I can't believe that chickens are any different. How many families have you seen where the first child looks like Mom, the second like Dad, and so on?

I think i get it too.

 

[Don Chandler]

Johnn, nice buffs, is that Mud? We haven't seen mud in western Oklahoma in a long time.

 

[Johnn]

Johnn, nice buffs, is that Mud? We haven't seen mud in western Oklahoma in a long time.

thanks, and yes its mud, its in the oen were they get fed and were their shed are, they have a huge field with grass they can go into at all times

 

[thedragonlady]

I tried to read this through the first time but all I could think of was, " She had a mare out of SECRETARIAT????" I now worship you. He ran that famed Triple Crown when I was riding Hunter/Jumpers and I even had a poster of him until not all that long ago haha. It cracked and tore with age.
Anyway, if I hear you right, you're saying that if you get a great offspring, breed her to a different male, then breed to the same one again to try to replicate.

NO and NO! If you get great offspring from a breeding, next time breed to a DIFFERENT male. That breaks the ova immunity. THEN breed back to the male that threw the good stuff. Conversly: If you had a disaster try it again: your birds will be immune from that disaster.You will not get in an immediate repeat breeding what you got in the previous. This was proven with invitrio at Perdue.

 

[thedragonlady]

NO and NO! If you get great offspring from a breeding, next time breed to a DIFFERENT male. That breaks the ova immunity. THEN breed back to the male that threw the good stuff. Conversly: If you had a disaster try it again: your birds will be immune from that disaster.You will not get in an immediate repeat breeding what you got in the previous. This was proven with invitrio at Perdue.

Galanie,
You are right ! Don't repeat the same breeding twice in a row. A REALLY BAD day here. More later.

 

[thedragonlady]

SHE looks great! Where's the box?

 

[Johnn]

SHE looks great! Where's the box?

thanks hah, she is doing great!