Premier 1 folks, whats your voltage like?

[StinkyAcres]

It might be better to ask Premier1 directly.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Talking directly to Premiere1 is an outstanding excellent idea. They can answer these questions much better than I can.

I could be wrong, but I feel anything higher than 5,000 volts would be too much for a chicken.

It is not the voltage that is the issue, it is the amps. If they were putting out a product that could damage people or pets they'd have legal issues.

The way they protect people and animals is that it is not a continuous current. It pulses about 50 times a minute. That gives people and critters a chance to turn loose. With a continuous current they could not turn loose, which would be dangerous. My tester confirms the voltage is above 7,000, it does not say how high it actually is. I've accidentally touched it several times and am still alive. When my chickens get shocked they jump back and squawk, then go back to pecking and eating.

To be shocked they have to complete the circuit. That means they have to touch the ground and hot wire at the same time.

Are you talking about electric netting or a metal mesh fence? Those work differently. With electric netting the horizontal wires above the bottom wire are the hot wires. The bottom horizontal is not hot as that would ground it out. The soil is the ground so the critter has to touch the ground at the same time it touches a horizontal hot wire. With a mesh fence the soil and the mesh fence are the ground and you install hot wires on insulators. The set-up is different but Premiere1 can help you with that.

The grounding rods do not work that well in very dry soil. The current doesn't really travel in the dirt, it travels through the water in the dirt. Some soils, like clay, hold moisture very well. Dry sand can be an issue.

You can always ask Premiere1 but I would not worry about a septic system. It will not see any current unless it is in a direct line between the grounding rod and the hot wire that is touched. Even then I'd think the amount of current would be tiny. My electric netting was somewhat near the leech field from my septic system which helped keep the soil moist.

 

[Echelontheory101]

Talking directly to Premiere1 is an outstanding excellent idea. They can answer these questions much better than I can.


It is not the voltage that is the issue, it is the amps. If they were putting out a product that could damage people or pets they'd have legal issues.

The way they protect people and animals is that it is not a continuous current. It pulses about 50 times a minute. That gives people and critters a chance to turn loose. With a continuous current they could not turn loose, which would be dangerous. My tester confirms the voltage is above 7,000, it does not say how high it actually is. I've accidentally touched it several times and am still alive. When my chickens get shocked they jump back and squawk, then go back to pecking and eating.

To be shocked they have to complete the circuit. That means they have to touch the ground and hot wire at the same time.

Are you talking about electric netting or a metal mesh fence? Those work differently. With electric netting the horizontal wires above the bottom wire are the hot wires. The bottom horizontal is not hot as that would ground it out. The soil is the ground so the critter has to touch the ground at the same time it touches a horizontal hot wire. With a mesh fence the soil and the mesh fence are the ground and you install hot wires on insulators. The set-up is different but Premiere1 can help you with that.

The grounding rods do not work that well in very dry soil. The current doesn't really travel in the dirt, it travels through the water in the dirt. Some soils, like clay, hold moisture very well. Dry sand can be an issue.

You can always ask Premiere1 but I would not worry about a septic system. It will not see any current unless it is in a direct line between the grounding rod and the hot wire that is touched. Even then I'd think the amount of current would be tiny. My electric netting was somewhat near the leech field from my septic system which helped keep the soil moist.

Right that's exactly what I thought. And yes it is the netting not the mesh I'm not sure if you're talking to me or him though and my soil is very clay like and moist and the grounding rods are going to be at the edge of my leach field anyway, so I don't have to worry about lack of moisture for mine. I understand how all of these fences work I was originally just asking folks what their fences run at to make sure that I bought a powerful enough energizer and long enough grounding rods since I couldn't really find any stats online about the specific fence stats. Its nice to hear that your set up is over 7k Thank you!

 

[Nonafel]

I wonder if your energizer is the problem overall.

For reference I use one Solar IntelliShock® 100 Energizer with 225ish feet total of fencing.
Normal readings on volts are 9k towards the start, 1k less on the other end.

I've never had a single problem with mine and I have two seperate energizers just in case a swap is needed. The fence was closer to 7k and it audibly zapped a friends large dog that got too close.

Echoing the suggestion to contact premier directly.
Edit: I'm also using the poultry plus, so we have the exact same fencing. Even down to the gate.

 

[Echelontheory101]

I wonder if your energizer is the problem overall.

For reference I use one Solar IntelliShock® 100 Energizer with 225ish feet total of fencing.
Normal readings on volts are 9k towards the start, 1k less on the other end.

I've never had a single problem with mine and I have two seperate energizers just in case a swap is needed. The fence was closer to 7k and it audibly zapped a friends large dog that got too close.

Echoing the suggestion to contact premier directly.
Edit: I'm also using the poultry plus, so we have the exact same fencing. Even down to the gate.

I'm not having any issues with it, it hasn't even been delivered yet I purchased it the day I posted this. I was just posting this to ask people like you that have similar setups what kind of voltage I can expect so I make sure I put/purchased enough grounding rods etc since i couldnt find a clear answer online. But based on the responses I'm getting I probably didnt explain what info I was looking for well haha! Thats awesome to hear your results with your set up thats exactly what I was looking for and sounds like our setups are very similar which means I'll likely have plenty of punch for the type of predators I'm dealing with, thank you for the info!!