Done w/ both, and man oh man you guys can keep your fully feathered roos, I'll take my castrated NN any day!!!!!! My NN's take 10 minutes, 5 to pluck and 5 to eviscerate, those guys took me an hour or more each and brute force, the only reason I'm done now is I finally gave up and started cutting the birds into pieces and skinned each piece, and jajean, your not kidding about getting the crop out, pulling a chainsaw cord would have been easier!!!!!
My new killing set up will need a little work, I think the principle is good just needs some tweeking.