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We switched and placed Sadie at auction on https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=5546293#p5546293
Protection with Poultry/Livestock Guardian Dogs
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Awww! Sadie is so cute!
And your LGD are nice looking.
I have a nice Great Pyrenees of my own. Her name is Koda. I haven't lost a single chicken to predators since I got her. She's terrific with my chickens. I can let my chickens out in the barn with Koda and they'll ignore her and continue scratching in the dirt.
I have a nice Great Pyrenees of my own. Her name is Koda. I haven't lost a single chicken to predators since I got her. She's terrific with my chickens. I can let my chickens out in the barn with Koda and they'll ignore her and continue scratching in the dirt.
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We had an inquiry in a PM and thought I would share my answer on this thread. They have a next door neighbor with LGDs and I suggested they try to acquire a pup from their neighbor. The inquirer was not really interested in the auction format. Here is my response:
We decided on the auction format mainly because we have only one pup. Had all 10 pups been saved, we would have sold them a bit different. We are hoping for another litter in a few months. My family has bred dogs for years. Mostly Border Collies. We started with LGDs when I traded for some sheep a few years ago. No longer have the sheep, but have been convinced on the need for a LGD. The coyotes returned again last night. Came up from the back pine forrest. Not sure how close they came, but Buddy and Sheba stood them off. The coyotes have a right to live...just not off my chickens and ducks.
With goat/sheep LGDs you can just leave them with the livestock . But to be a poultry LGD they need to be raised with poultry. Does your neighbors raise any litters? That would be best for you. Their LGDs would need to get along with yours. It is fairly easy to train a P/LGD. Just take the pup with you to feed and house it in a poultry pen when you are not present. Would allow it to 'visit" the adjoining fence so it stays friends with the older dogs. As it matures it will come to know you as master and your birds as its responsibility.
A second dog is easier to train, as the older dog trains the younger. I have seen an older dog, the Alpha, tackle a young dog when the young dog stepped out of line. Sheba went after our wethered goat the other day. Catherine was screaming at Sheba. Nothing would stop her. it appeared she was mawling the goat. When Catherine got to them, it looked much different. the Buckeyes were inside their coop eating feed. Earnie wanted the feed so he started inside the coop drop door. He would not fit, but was trying anyway. Sheba was at his side with her head and weight on him trying to stop him. Sheba knew he did not belong inside the coop. Sheba was protecting the Buckeyes from the goat. Never seen that happen before.
You are welcome to bid on Sadie, but you may be better to acquire a pup or young dog from your neighbor.
We decided on the auction format mainly because we have only one pup. Had all 10 pups been saved, we would have sold them a bit different. We are hoping for another litter in a few months. My family has bred dogs for years. Mostly Border Collies. We started with LGDs when I traded for some sheep a few years ago. No longer have the sheep, but have been convinced on the need for a LGD. The coyotes returned again last night. Came up from the back pine forrest. Not sure how close they came, but Buddy and Sheba stood them off. The coyotes have a right to live...just not off my chickens and ducks.
With goat/sheep LGDs you can just leave them with the livestock . But to be a poultry LGD they need to be raised with poultry. Does your neighbors raise any litters? That would be best for you. Their LGDs would need to get along with yours. It is fairly easy to train a P/LGD. Just take the pup with you to feed and house it in a poultry pen when you are not present. Would allow it to 'visit" the adjoining fence so it stays friends with the older dogs. As it matures it will come to know you as master and your birds as its responsibility.
A second dog is easier to train, as the older dog trains the younger. I have seen an older dog, the Alpha, tackle a young dog when the young dog stepped out of line. Sheba went after our wethered goat the other day. Catherine was screaming at Sheba. Nothing would stop her. it appeared she was mawling the goat. When Catherine got to them, it looked much different. the Buckeyes were inside their coop eating feed. Earnie wanted the feed so he started inside the coop drop door. He would not fit, but was trying anyway. Sheba was at his side with her head and weight on him trying to stop him. Sheba knew he did not belong inside the coop. Sheba was protecting the Buckeyes from the goat. Never seen that happen before.
You are welcome to bid on Sadie, but you may be better to acquire a pup or young dog from your neighbor.
I have a female Great Pyrenees/Akbash - Kinzi and a male Great Pyrenees Captain Sully. They are both great with our sheep, chickens and children. The only problem I have encountered is I can only let one loose at a time. If they both are loose they tend to wander a little too far away from home. This picture was taken a few months ago. They are both a year old now. Hopefully, we will have a litter of pups this summer
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Gorgeous.
Gorgeous.
What about the spots on the dog's face? Our 3/4 Anatolian 1/4 Great Pyrenees boy has those super cute spots also. The breeder we bought from said that he couldn't find buyers for the spotted dogs because it is a disqualification in the Anatolians, so I had assumed it was just something that showed up in that breed, but I see it there in your GP also. When I heard he had a boy with spots, I was so excited, because I love them! He was originally going to give us a different pair of brothers but I wanted the spotted boy, so he gave us the sister who he was so bonded with, and kept the original pair of brothers for someone else who wanted non-spotted dogs. Is this just like single combs showing up in Wyandottes, no matter how hard a breeder tries to weed it out, or brown eggs popping up out of random pullets years after a breeder has been getting nothing but blue eggs in his lines? A tricky gene that floats around hidden until just the right combo?
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It is common for GP to be white with varying shades of gray, red (rust), or tan around the face (including a full face mask), ears and sometimes on the body and tail. In the litter that Captain Sully was from two of his siblings had black spots on their bodies.
It is common for GP to be white with varying shades of gray, red (rust), or tan around the face (including a full face mask), ears and sometimes on the body and tail. In the litter that Captain Sully was from two of his siblings had black spots on their bodies.
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It is common for GP to be white with varying shades of gray, red (rust), or tan around the face (including a full face mask), ears and sometimes on the body and tail. In the litter that Captain Sully was from two of his siblings had black spots on their bodies.
Very Interesting. It looks like I have been thinking about this wrong; I thought the spots were coming from the Anatolian part of their parentage and that that was the problem, but it sounds like the spots are from the GP heritage and that is why his Anatolian clients were bothered by them. I have never seen a GP with those colorations but I really like it.
Captain Sully is a wonderful name for that great big guy there! We also have had a tough time with our dogs escaping and wanting to patrol a much larger area than we have for them, but so far the electric fence is keeping them in. I have now had a number of people say that the underground fencing system is the way to go with the LGDs.
Take care. Megan.
It is common for GP to be white with varying shades of gray, red (rust), or tan around the face (including a full face mask), ears and sometimes on the body and tail. In the litter that Captain Sully was from two of his siblings had black spots on their bodies.
Very Interesting. It looks like I have been thinking about this wrong; I thought the spots were coming from the Anatolian part of their parentage and that that was the problem, but it sounds like the spots are from the GP heritage and that is why his Anatolian clients were bothered by them. I have never seen a GP with those colorations but I really like it.
Captain Sully is a wonderful name for that great big guy there! We also have had a tough time with our dogs escaping and wanting to patrol a much larger area than we have for them, but so far the electric fence is keeping them in. I have now had a number of people say that the underground fencing system is the way to go with the LGDs.
Take care. Megan.
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We use the PetSafe Radio Fence Systems from http://www.petco.com/product/6531/PetSafe-Radio-Fence-Systems-Ultra-Light-Extra-Receivers.aspx?CoreCat=certona-_-ProductList_Dog_2-_-PetSafe%20Radio%20Fence%20Systems%20Ultra%20Light%20Extra%20Receivers-6531
Not even Buddy will cross the line. We had two stray dogs in our yard one day a few weeks ago. I tried to get Buddy to cross the line and attack. We even removed his collar. He wanted those two strays, but would not cross where he knew the line was. Pity anything that crosses his line.
Currently we have a small acreage. When we get a larger farm, I plan on running the wire around the outside of the pasture fencing. When we first purchased the PetSafe I was sceptical that it would work on a dog Buddy's size. Hate to admit it, but my wife was right! Just don't tell her. Try the PetSafe system on your LGDs.
Not even Buddy will cross the line. We had two stray dogs in our yard one day a few weeks ago. I tried to get Buddy to cross the line and attack. We even removed his collar. He wanted those two strays, but would not cross where he knew the line was. Pity anything that crosses his line.
Currently we have a small acreage. When we get a larger farm, I plan on running the wire around the outside of the pasture fencing. When we first purchased the PetSafe I was sceptical that it would work on a dog Buddy's size. Hate to admit it, but my wife was right! Just don't tell her. Try the PetSafe system on your LGDs.
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Sadie just had her first 'solid" food. Well, almost solid. Sort of solid....okay, it was mush. Puppy food mixed with milk and smashed. She ate a small spoonful, swallowed, gagged, chewed some more, gagged, chewed...you get the idea. My wife will try again tomorrow.
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