Protein % of feed.

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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Very nice explanation, Mac. If you really want to confuse the issue you can throw in the daily requirements for individual Amino Acids such as Lysine, Methionine, Threonine, Tryptophan, etc.

Jim

 

[Junkmanme]

mac in abilene,

Thanks for the "insight"! It is helpful.

-Junkmanme-

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

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Sorry but the table has turned.

Your logic/assumptions about livestock feed producers is false. They do not use moldy/rotten ingredients in their feeds, that would be counter to the objective of providing nutritious feeds for livestock. If the feed is bad the livestock won't flourish.


Jim

And they will get sued big time, as well as possibly facing the expense of a government mandated recall.

Now I do not believe that most feeds are formulated with a primary goal of excellent nutrition. Rather nutrition is balanced against cost, and the resulting feed is adequate, and cost is affordable. For a factory farm, be it broilers or an egg farm, cost is a major consideration. For a backyard flock it may be of less consideration.​

 

[Mac in Wisco]

While there are feedstock categories of Bakery Products, Distiller's grains, Brewers Grain and various by-products, these are not very common in feeds you'd get from your local feed mill, nor in quality bagged feed. They would more likely be used by large, commercial mega-operations that own their own mills.

I know what I get from our local feed mill. It is organic cereal grains and legumes that are grown all over the area. Corn, soy, wheat, barley, oats, field peas, etc. I recently purchased the neighbor's seven acre organic corn crop. It grows a stone's throw from my back door. It should be about 20 tons of grain that will go out to our feed mill and will be held on account for me to use against my feed bill.

As far as bagged feed goes, as with anything else, you get what you pay for. If you're reaching for the $8 bag of some brand you've never heard of, you'd better read the label. If it lists grains as the principal feedstock, good. If you can't make out what it contains or it lists very general descriptions that still leave you scratching your head, find a better brand.

Corn and soy and the like are not filler! Corn and soy, or wheat and peas are the basic feedstocks for making a nutritious layer ration. If they are the filler then you're going to have to tell me what the good part is...

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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Your assessment may be cis somewhat correct for customized feeding programs for commercial livestock producers but the feeding programs in these units are designed to meet the needs of the livestock but without overformulating. In contrast the feeds designed for backyard/hobby feeds typically have nutrition enhancers and specialty products that help the animals thrive. Products like Direct Fed Microbials, Flavoring agents, Botanicals, Essential Oils, etc. provide insurance policies for backyard producers to help their livestock thrive.

Jim

 

[Mac in Wisco]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

Your assessment may be cis somewhat correct for customized feeding programs for commercial livestock producers but the feeding programs in these units are designed to meet the needs of the livestock but without overformulating. In contrast the feeds designed for backyard/hobby feeds typically have nutrition enhancers and specialty products that help the animals thrive. Products like Direct Fed Microbials, Flavoring agents, Botanicals, Essential Oils, etc. provide insurance policies for backyard producers to help their livestock thrive.

Jim

Good point Jim, but for backyard birds that have access to sunshine, natural forage, and little critters to scarf up most of the year, a basic, yet nutritionally sound feed should provide for their basic nutritional needs with nature providing for the enhancements that you describe.

Disregarding the economics of it, the commercially raised birds need those enhancements in their feed more than a backyard pet.​

 

[Mac in Wisco]

What happened to Rangely? Probably keeled over dead after reading the reply to a seemingly simple question...

 

[greathorse]

LOL Yep probably correct. Thanks for your input

 

[Farm Chic]

this post is awesome!! I love reading opinions! Great information!

 

[tdgill]

great posts guys, thanks! I have learned alot.