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PurpleXLavender =?

Discussion in 'Guinea Fowl' started by fancyfowl4ever, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. fancyfowl4ever

    fancyfowl4ever Chillin' With My Peeps

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    As the title says, what would I get out of crossing Purple and Lavender(other then more purple and lavs)?

    Havent had guineas for 4 yrs and seen 4 - august hatched juvies- for sale for $30 for all and couldnt say no........ the lady i got them from didnt know what genders they were(her first guineas and she realized she doesnt have the set-up), 2 greys, 1 purple and 1 lav. Got in the coop this morning to the lavender just buck-wheating away [​IMG]

    So I know I got 1 hen for sure, now I had lavs and greys before, also buffs and know what to expect on keet colours on crossing any of those but how does the purple work in the equation(if its male?)?????
    Never had purples before since they are hard to come by around these parts and ridiculously priced at auction. Also my guinea colour math is a bit rusty after 4 yrs. [​IMG]
     
  2. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The color gene of the Royal Purple (black/charcoal grey) is dominant over the color gene of the Lavender (blue), but the fully-pearled gene of the Lavender is dominant over the partially-pearled gene of the Royal Purple... so you may end up with only Pearl Grey keets in your hatches from that pairing.

    Depending on which hidden recessive genes both birds are carrying (both color and pearling) Lavender and Royal Purple keets may not show up in the hatches at all... but they might, and other surprise colors may show up as well (such as Coral Blue). There's really no telling which genes your birds have hidden in their background until you do some test breeding.
     
  3. fancyfowl4ever

    fancyfowl4ever Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you, guinea colours have never been my strong suite, I always seem to forget whats dominant and whats not.

    By the looks of it the purple may actually be female, I could have sworn I have seen it buck-wheat but I was running around feeding so not much time to watch and listen. Gonna grab a chair and a can of mealworms and sit in the coop today and see whats what with these 4 pretty little birdies.
    Now how bout Buff/Buff Dundotte over purple and lav? I know I had gotten slates out of buff dundotteXLav but I think the buff male was carrying another colour since his flanks had purple highlights in the brown.

    Ya know I had forgotten how loud even their conversational chirps are, but I am pleased that my guinea vocabulary came right back and I chatter right back at them. [​IMG]
    They found the outside run today and proceeded to yell at my sheep(share a fence line) and at the peas sitting on the outside perches. I missed that sound [​IMG]
    I hope the rest of the family missed the sound too cause they dont know we got guineas again......[​IMG]
     
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  4. JLeigh

    JLeigh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If you can separate each guinea from the rest for a few minutes each, the females will start the buck-wheat call. Sometimes it can take 5 - 10 minutes. (Credit goes to PeepsCA for that info.) It has never failed to work for me if the guineas are old enough. I left one separated for about 10 minutes and thought, "Definitely a male!" then just before I opened the door, she started buck-wheating, which was a bummer because I wanted a male.

    I like their whistles, honks and those "trills" - although I have one female who NEVER. SHUTS. UP. That gets a little old, but other than that, I find them to be completely charming and entertaining critters.

    PS - my husband HATES being close to them when they crank up the alarm calls. He has earplugs :).
     
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  5. fancyfowl4ever

    fancyfowl4ever Chillin' With My Peeps

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    When I have time to sit there i seperate each one for a bit, just came in from a sitting session in the coop, its 2 buildings with a wall taken out so I just herd 1 guinea into the one side by itself and sit in the door.
    Had the purple seperate, she would not say a word until the lavender started calling for her then she started to buck-wheat back at her. The pearls still just make male sounds.
     
  6. JLeigh

    JLeigh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    FF4E, I do the same thing you do, only I usually take a glass of wine with me. Makes the time much more enjoyable [​IMG].
     
  7. fancyfowl4ever

    fancyfowl4ever Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Can't touch alcohol(unless I want a trip to the ER) so in my case I take some meal worms with me and hand-feed the chickens and try to befriend the guineas. Had some of my leghorns on my lap while sitting there trying to steal ALL the mealies [​IMG], silly things they were meant for EVERYONE!
    The guineas just glanced at the worms when I threw them at their feet, they looked kind of weirded out by them.
     
  8. JLeigh

    JLeigh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    My first guineas would climb over cars (slight exaggeration) to get mealworms - the guineas I have now look at them as if I'm trying to poison them (not an exaggeration). They do however LOVE black oil sunflower seeds, which pound for pound are less expensive and nutritious enough so that I don't feel guilty giving them a handful every few days or so. I can almost get them to take them from my hand if I'm really really still and quiet.
     
  9. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    When you hatched Slate keets (non-pearled) from your Buff Dundotte over Lavender pairing (both fully-pearled) the keets got the color gene from the Lavender (blue), and both parents were obviously carrying the hidden recessive non-pearling gene. Did you get all Slate keets from the hatches, or just some? (And just to remind you, Buffs and Buff Dundottes are 2 different varieties... they both have the same base color, but the Buffs are only partially-pearled, the Buff Dundottes are fully-pearled).

    As for possibilities from Buff/Buff Dundotte over Royal Purple and Lavender: The Royal Purple and Lavender color genes from the Hens will be dominant over Buff/Buff Dundotte color genes from the males, and the fully-pearled gene (of either of the colors or sexes) will be dominant over the partially pearled gene.
     
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  10. fancyfowl4ever

    fancyfowl4ever Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I know that Buff and Buff dundotte are different, just not sure which colour male I will get my hands on. Most people sell the buffs even as whites, thinking that they are just dirty...... [​IMG]

    As for the buff dundotteXlav we got 1 out of maybe 100 keets that turned out Slate. Like I said I am sure the male carried a few odd genes, he was the one and only buff dundotte I have ever seen where there was a slight purple hue in the brown highlights at the sides.

    I am all cool with the dominant and recessive, just guineas I always found confusing with what gene is which etc.
     

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