Question about heat today versus heat in the 1950's-1960's

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I was telling my sister about the things I was doing for my chickens with the extreme heat. (box fan, mister, extra water) She said our Granddaddy had chickens in Alabama, which was very hot, and never used any of that. Why did he not need that? I was just curious if anyone had an opinion on that.
 
Today's chickens are not the same as chickens 60 years ago. We demand higher production, they are heavier and we keep a more variety of birds that aren't naturalized. We are also soft when it comes to our livestock and pets.
 
Back then chickens were only for food, now they are considered pets, so it's the owners who have changed, not the birds, and back then people kept breeds that were bred for the climate they lived in. With my chickens I provide fresh clean water throughout the day, and provide shade, the rest is up to the chicken
 
Back then birds in confinement typically had more open buildings to be in allowing better ventilation. These days in Alabama you are likely to confine birds tighter to compensate for weaker predator controls. The pets being soft part of equation but even my grandparents (one a cocker and other a commercial hatching egg producer) kept a few as pets. The pet concept is not new, rather more prevalent today.
 
How did your grandparents keep them? Were they tightly confined or closer to free range? If they are allowed to range they can find microclimates that are better for themselves, shady moister areas that just aren’t as hot. If you keep them fairly tightly confined they don’t have the option of finding a better microclimate. They are stuck with what you give them.

How were they fed? Did they pretty much find their own food or were they fed a rich diet to make them as big as they can possibly grow and lay as many oversized eggs as you can get them to lay? A lighter more athletic chicken is tougher and can handle more than one that is, how to say it, less athletic.

I don’t think it is the chickens that have changed so much as it’s the way we keep chickens.
 
There is considerable difference in a backyard, even one on an acerage, than one on an active farm or ranch, where a multitude of animals are being cared for. Chickens will peck through spilled and wasted feed, and manure for bugs and undigested feed. Old hay and used bedding piles are great attractors of insects and seed.

Larger animals moving around, often cause predators to move out a bit. We brought the yearling cattle into the home pasture, and my 3 coyotes that had been eating my chckens moved somewhere else.

These are interactions that are not happening on a small area of kentucky blue grass lawn in a back yard.

Mrs. K
 
Having just spent an entire week with heat indexes at 100-113, I hear you! By day two, it was 90' at 8am. I have lived in southern Alabama. I now live where it not only gets as nasty as it does there in the Summer, but where temperatures can hit -50'F in the winter with the wind-chill. My bird breeds must be able to tolerate both extremes. While my coop is very large, is perpetually open on one side, has huge upper windows, a large barn fan, and a covered run for shade, I threw open the doors and let the whole flock out onto the countryside. The coop and run were the same temperature as the great outdoors (YACK), but allowing them to roam, let them seek shade in the meadow and under the coop where there was not only shade, but cool grass and earth.

I decided the risk from predators is/was far less then the danger of heat or stress. My orpington was suffering something awful and had to be cooled or she certainly would have died.


I figure in the old days, you raised what was in your area and those were tolerant to that area. You didn't ship funky, fun birds from around the country. In addition, birds that would have dropped from heat would have just been taken as a loss, and eaten/processed. It was just the way it was. Livestock loss due to weather was just the way it was. Now we have more advanced methods for moderating those extremes. BUT we also have those wacky imported breeds. For that reason, and the fact that many of us don't use our birds for simple production, we go to those extremes to keep them healthy AND happy.

I have learned that while I love the giant, waddling butts of the Orpingtons, they simply do NOT handle the heat and humidity well here. The darker breed birds don't either. As I replace my flock over the years, I'll replace them with birds that are most suitable for the wacky conditions that we have here.
 
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I see no difference. I've raised chickens for 22 years & never used a fan or mister & they've done just fine. We've had lots of hot humid weather over the years. Once when it hit 106 I did spray down their run, as it was very dry that year. My first winter the temps were down as low as -22 for a week at night & my chickens did fine with no heat. My coop & run are well shaded & I just make sure they have clean cool water. So many people just seem to work too hard to have chickens in MHO, but that's just me.
 
A difference is the more complete diets enabling tighter confinement and the preponderance of new urban poultry keepers in the process of learning about their birds and what they can tolerate. The tighter confines can be problematic in urban heat islands that are every bit as hot, if not hotter, than rural locations nearby.
 
Just speculating here. I'm guessing your granddaddy didn't pamper his chickens or read for hours on backyardchickens.com about inventions, tips and tricks to keep your chickens cool. And maybe his chickens just suffered through the heat and occasionally maybe one or two actually died from it. But that was simply a seasonal and accepted loss, not the tragic loss of a cherished family pet. Maybe they just thought of their chickens differently than we do these days.

The old man who lived next door to me and kept the same sorts of chickens that I do thought I was out of my mind for putting an automatic door on my chicken coop, although I think he secretly liked it. And he scoffed at me for putting a chunk of ice in the chickens' water can. Different generation, different way of looking at things.
 

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