Questions about N.P.I.P. certification.

[Laurieks]

My big fear is that my address would be 'on the radar' for NAIS when (crossing fingers for IF) it passes.

Opinions???

 

[Tailfeathers]

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I just want to be clear, are you telling me that PT cannot be transmitted from other sources such as other birds brought into the flock, wild birds such as sparrows, Blue Herons, Bald Eagles, or other migratory waterfowl? What about someone coming to your farm that has birds of their own and tracking it to your property from their shoes or clothing?

I'm looking into NPIP Certification here in WA State as well. Unfortunately, the State Legislature just passed a Bill this year that will most likely make it cost prohibitive for any of us small time hobbyists to get certified. It’s a long story but suffice it for now to say that we now have to pay $85 an hour to have the Vet come and the clock starts from the time he leaves his office to get to your place (I’m 4 hours away!) and stops when he gets back to the office.

IF funding is available and you allow them to test for AI while they visit you, they will bill the commute time to AI funding and only charge your for the time to set up, test 30 birds (approx. 2-3 minutes per bird), and then clean up. Approximately 2 hours total - or in other words probably $200. Again "IF" it's available which it hasn't been for over a year. How many eggs and chicks do you think I'd have to sell just to pay for the NPIP? And then it has to be renewed every year. Sorry, but the State basically shut me down from shipping any chicks out of State.

It would be to the benefit of the states to keep the price reasonable. You would think if they are REALLY serious about wanting to keep the state safe from P-T, they would be encouraging folks to get their birds tested. Not discouraging them by making the price out of reach for most of us. I would have to sell 40 chicks just to pay for the NPIP certification at the going rate. And you KNOW it's only going to go UP from there.

Believe it or not, two years ago they were still paying me to come out and test for AI. Last year that stopped because they said they didn’t have the funding. Then they pass this stupid new law this year. So far everyone I’ve talked with says they ain’t gonna do it. I told the State Vet, “Well, when you have a state-wide epidemic break out and you start having all sorts of problems, now you’ll know why.”

God Bless,

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

Ok, Pullorum is a bird to bird problem as far as I know not wild, it does pass through the egg, what so bad about it is if you get it in a commercial flock it will kill the whole flock fast, Have you checked if you can be certified to test yourself? I'm just a small flock owner and went through a 3 hour seminar showed them I could read the test, I'm good to go for 2 years
Also WI has a program that's called WI certified which is the same as NPIP and its free but the testing. every states NPIP is different its up to them how much to charge and the rules. Find out haw big the commercial flocks are in your state that seams to be the kicker on how NPIP works. in WI we have big commercial flocks so the little guy pays

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

As I understand it, a number of states disallow people from testing their own flocks (for certification--I assume you can test away all you want, but that won't get you the certificate); other states allow it. I do know that a silkie club member who also lives in Washington State was also complaining that it is outrageously expensive to have her small flock tested (she estimated nearly $900), but that she couldn't even get on the schedule. This was before the recent changes mentioned.

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

We can test our own flocks,I'm a free employee of the state, doing testing for them, if I charge or not is up to me, my name and phone is on a web site and anyone that wants testing can call, one thing for my situation is I'm the new poultry superintendent for the county fair, so 4h kids just need to call and I go test their birds and certify them

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Unfortunately, that is not how it is done in some states.

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

Very true, but to be NPIP it costs thats where they get you in WI and we have mandatory NAIS. Dose any know why a national program isn't the same every where.

 

[crazy huhn]

So I am wondering if I need to be NPIP certified to ship or receive hatching chicken eggs or does it only apply to live animals? Does the seller have to be certified?
Does every seller on here, on e-bay or eggbid for hatching eggs have to be certified and are they??? Does it depend on flock size? Does it depend on the numbers of hatching eggs shipped?

 

[Tailfeathers]

I don't know now. I can't keep it all straight anymore. I'm not sure but I think, if I remember right, that I could have someone come out and take blood samples and then those have to be sent to the State lab and there was a pretty hefty fee even for that.

One thing does appear to be pretty clear though and that is that the State is not making it easy for us or the State to remain PT free. The State gets a certain amount of funding from the Feds for being NPIP free and if a case of PT shows up, they will lose that funding. Yes, the seemingly are doing everything they can to discourage participation in the program.

God Bless,

 

[pips&peeps]

Holderreads is NPIP certified.

PC - It is called pullorum typhoid, not two different diseases.

NPIP tests blood for pullorum, takes fecal samples for salmonella and does throat swabs for AI.

As far as I know there were some positive birds in Missouri last year, but that it all I have heard. I think almost all States require all birds and hatching eggs entering from out of State to be NPIP certified. Some States want permits and other certifications.