Raising Guinea Fowl 101

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You are so welcome blessedchick
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I try to help when I can, if I can, with the best advice I can give based on what I've learned from the tons of research and reading I've done for the health and better of my own flocks, and all of my own trial and error experiences that I've have and continue to have with them... but it does not necessarily mean what I type pertains to everyone's flocks or ways of thinking, and it doesn't mean it's the ONLY way... just that it has worked for me (plus some things are just common sense things I point out because they are easily overlooked sometimes). I of course never expect those that read my posts to take it as Guinea Gospel, (or always agree either), but I do hope that they can take what they need from it as it applies to their own flocks.

Glad to read your "Lavender Wave" is doing well and you are enjoying them! Sounds like you are well on your way to a great start with them
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Can't wait to hear about your first hatch from them! (and see pics of course!).
 
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Yes, in the wild, they do eat what they can get... and in the spring and summer when keets hatch, the insects, small reptiles and rodents are abundant, so the keets get LOTS of protein in their diet from day one, which is why they grow/develop and feather out quickly and are off the ground and safe from predators.

What to feed brooder raised keets is a pretty touchy subject among backyard breeders (and even some professional breeders)... some take nutrition a little more seriously than others, some choose what's easiest and economical, some want their birds to live long productive lives, where as some butcher their flocks at a young age. I personally breed and feed for longevity and healthy future breeding stock tho.

I realize that finding the correct starter and grower feeds for Guinea keets and other Game Birds is difficult for some, but a lot of these high protein feeds can be ordered directly from the manufacturers and even online these days... and I am a stickler about correct nutrition for my birds, so I won't be the one to suggest adding things to chicken starter feeds for keets, just to help people out.

Ultimately it's not about the people, it's about the keets' complete nutritional needs (not just protein levels). One nutrient fed at a too high or too low of a level can effect a lot of different nutrients, and the way a keet's body absorbs and utilizes them. So IMO, by adding things to chick starter feeds and grower feeds to raise keets on can easily create unbalanced nutrient levels and end up doing more harm than good for the birds. Imbalances from the start can lead to development, genetic, reproductive issues etc in your flock (be it immediate issues or issues that develop down the line)... and not in just the current flock, but in generation after generation of offspring (and their offspring!). Another thing to consider is that if it's a medicated starter feed that you are adding other things to then you are also diluting the medication level, rendering it less effective, or not effective at all against Coccidiosis.

all i can say is to each his/her own as a person who is finding it very difficult to find the right food and its all right for you to say get it off the internet the P&P is outrageous i just felt that you are not understanding other peoples situations. i never mentioned medicated food
i will keep doing what i am doing and for those of you out there who are wondering how to up the protein level this is what i do i add fish food and insects which you can buy at any pet store its up to you what you feed your animals but getting good info IS the key
 
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You have every right to decide if the info I provided is good or not, so does everyone else. I'm not the one that decided what Guinea Fowls' nutritional requirements are tho. I'm also not the one who figured out that Guineas are closer in relation to Pheasants, Turkeys and other Game Birds than they are to chickens or what type of starter feed is best fitted for their nutritional needs.

When I mentioned the medicated starter feed... it was so those that do use medicated would be aware that if they do supplement a medicated chick starter with other sources of protein that they are diluting the medication... which could compromise a whole brooder full of keets, possibly an entire flock (and a vet would say the same thing). This is something that is easily overlooked, so that's why I pointed it out, it wasn't a personal attack on you.

As you said, to each their own. Which is why I can't/won't in good faith tell someone what else to raise their keets on if there's even a remote possibility that it could shorten their lifespan and/or cause any type of health issues. Sorry if you feel I am wrong for having that mindset.

Like I said, touchy subject.
 
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You have every right to decide if the info I provided is good or not, so does everyone else. I'm not the one that decided what Guinea Fowls' nutritional requirements are tho. I'm also not the one who figured out that Guineas are closer in relation to Pheasants, Turkeys and other Game Birds than they are to chickens or what type of starter feed is best fitted for their nutritional needs.

When I mentioned the medicated starter feed... it was so those that do use medicated would be aware that if they do supplement a medicated chick starter with other sources of protein that they are diluting the medication... which could compromise a whole brooder full of keets, possibly an entire flock (and a vet would say the same thing). This is something that is easily overlooked, so that's why I pointed it out, it wasn't a personal attack on you.

As you said, to each their own. Which is why I can't/won't in good faith tell someone what else to raise their keets on if there's even a remote possibility that it could shorten their lifespan and/or cause any type of health issues. Sorry if you feel I am wrong for having that mindset.

Like I said, touchy subject.

i do not think you are wrong you do have a right to express your opinion.
i did not realise that this was a very touchy subject as you stated i meant no disrespect and i apologise if i have rubbed you the wrong way

merry Christmas and a happy new year
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I think this paragraph is the clearest description I have ever read. thank you peeps. I was one of those who made the conclusion that if you didn't have the right feed you could tweak what you had, especially if you had only one or two to raise up. I apologize to everyone for those times when I have offered erroneous information.
 
I do appreciate all the feedback too.
I was the one who had the initial problem.
Hearing what other people do does help me figure out what I can do.
I only have two guinneas and I sell the babies as I find having lots of guinneas is a very noisy affair.

I had to laugh when I see the term "hatchaholic" thanks Shella, I knew it was a condition...ha ha

I think that my little guinnea needed to be wormed. Since he was so small I gave him the tiniest bit of Piperzine. He did get better but I think I should have repeated the treatment for a few days. Eating is so important when they are growing. People on this site are very passionate about their birds, a feeling I can relate to.

Living and learning in BC
 
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I think this paragraph is the clearest description I have ever read. thank you peeps. I was one of those who made the conclusion that if you didn't have the right feed you could tweak what you had, especially if you had only one or two to raise up. I apologize to everyone for those times when I have offered erroneous information.

I don't think of it as erroneous information deb, those that do not have access to high protein game bird formulated feeds have to find the happy medium somehow. There's just a lot of things to consider when you are feeding keets something other than what is recommended by the major breeders and hatcheries. I personally choose to error on the side of caution and suggest feeding keets only what's recommended by the professionals (especially for the first 6 wks)... rather than post info that could possibly harm someone's flock. The Guinea Fowl attrition rate is high enough as it is... I don't want to contribute any information that can add to it, if I can help it
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Sorry if I seem cranky, or come across as a know it all... I'm just very opinionated about what I know nutritionally works well for raising healthy keets that grow into productive breeding stock in my flocks
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Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers or insult anyone, I just try to help people raise healthy birds, to the best of my knowledge and experiences
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I think this paragraph is the clearest description I have ever read. thank you peeps. I was one of those who made the conclusion that if you didn't have the right feed you could tweak what you had, especially if you had only one or two to raise up. I apologize to everyone for those times when I have offered erroneous information.

I don't think of it as erroneous information deb, those that do not have access to high protein game bird formulated feeds have to find the happy medium somehow. There's just a lot of things to consider when you are feeding keets something other than what is recommended by the major breeders and hatcheries. I personally choose to error on the side of caution and suggest feeding keets only what's recommended by the professionals (especially for the first 6 wks)... rather than post info that could possibly harm someone's flock. The Guinea Fowl attrition rate is high enough as it is... I don't want to contribute any information that can add to it, if I can help it
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Sorry if I seem cranky, or come across as a know it all... I'm just very opinionated about what I know nutritionally works well for raising healthy keets that grow into productive breeding stock in my flocks
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Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers or insult anyone, I just try to help people raise healthy birds, to the best of my knowledge and experiences
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Not ruffled here just expressing that Aha moment when i actually learned something.... springs coming.... need more keets.... going to do eggs this time.
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even if I have to buy some
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I appreciate all of the wisdom and insight that everyone is offering up! At some point we all have to make decisions about our flock due to lack of resources and just having BYC and all of you experts as a reference point is a HUGE relief to me...and definitely helps me to make (what I hope) are better decisions. Please don't hold back, everyone! How else will we all learn? And we are all here with a common goal: to make our bird's lives the best that we can with what we have...because we love these bloomin' critters!
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...and I'm with ya, deb! Lovin' my Lavendar Wave and totally geeked about getting "Eggs of a different color" to spice up the scenery!
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(the "Buff Brigade"? the "Pearl Posse"?)
 

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