Rare breed but don't know what color

[violetsky]

Are you selling eggs by chance? I really like my chicks and would like to get some from another breeder. I'm very patient and can work
out traits I don't like the extra toe. I've had the same strain of guppies for a long time (15 years at least) and outcross all the time. Recently I outcrossed with enders, (a wild variety) in the hopes of introducing new colors. My original goal with guppies was to breed an interesting female gold skinned with white metallic plating. I now have
several types. I also have koi and sometimes show them. I'm new to breeding chickens and am looking to learn as much as possible.

 

[tgrlily]

I'm not selling eggs right now, but will try to find you a breeder who is. I have waiting lists for both chicks & eggs... so of course the girls are not cooperating!

Are you looking specifically for Red? I just ordered 2 dozen Silver Grey from a breeder in Texas. Here's his website: Honey Suckle Farms By this time next year, my goal is to have all 5 of the accepted colors.

Why don't you like the extra toe? Sure makes them easy to spot in the brooder!

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[violetsky]

The extra toe and large combs seem un-natural to me. I don't like dewclaws on dogs either. I'm just weird
on what I like and dislike about things in general. I rate men by scent for example not appearance. Pretty weird. Ha ha.
The big question is why do you like the extra toe? It long and dangly and seems to serve no purpose.

 

[violetsky]

Oh, about the eggs, I would like to get red very much. I'm also looking to round out my
ameraucanas with every color. I have lavender, black, blue, wheatens, buff, white but no
brown red or silver.

 

[tgrlily]

We're all our own flavor of weird!

I like unique things, like hand painted clothing.
The fifth toe is one of the traits that identifies a Dorking as a Dorking. That fifth toe is documented as far back as the 1st century AD. It's required in the SOP. Are you sure you want Dorkings? Other breeds come in the same colors that have "normal" toes.

I don't have brown/red or silver Ameraucanas either, but have white, wheaten, lav & 2 project colors going.



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[tadkerson]

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You can not produce a double laced bird from the breeds you have listed. Neither carry the correct genes to produce the bird. I do not understand how "dun is an offshoot from the colored". Where did you get this information? The term colored is another name for golden duckwing type bird. Dun is a mutation of the dominant white gene. White Dorkings should be recessive white not dominant white.

I am not trying to be a downer; I just want to help.

Tim

 

[violetsky]

No downer at all. Is there a comprohensive guide to chicken genetics? I have horses
as well and studied their genetics quite a bit more than other animals and have found even long
time breeders have no idea about color genetics with horses. Horses have diluting factors
like dun, cream, and champagne that effect basic colors like black, red, (chestnut) and bay.
There is also the grey/overo gene the effects 50 percent of offspring, as well as appaloosa
and of course paint and taffy. There are probably more records to sift through with
horse genetics making it easier to understand. Anyway, I'm guessing chickens are as complicated as well
and there's no better way to learn than to just jump in. There is a very readable book on
horse color genetics by an Australian women I wish I could name, with lots of color pictures and very readable text,
is there anything like that out for chickens? I would like to know the basics but it's hard to scan
through all the threads. I have Storey's guide but it's section on color is a little frustrating. Like the
gray example photo looks exactly like the birchen and the brown red roo looks like bbr The written description for
Black-Breasted Red says, Male: Predominantly black with creamy white head and hackle and golden back; wings
are highlighted by red and green..... yet the picture of a Black breasted male shows a golden hued head and neck
and the ear is white. Were they actually referring to the ear color and just added the hackles by mistake?

I like Dorkings. I like Dorkings. I just don't like their extra toe. They have unique qualities besides the toe. The little
boat shape, for example. Also their personality is unique. They are absolutely the best behaved chicks ever. The
remain very quiet if fed, warm and have their water. I have a farm and a suburban house. I like having quiet chicks
where I live and my neighbors don't hear a thing. It's a little awkard to have chicks in the house and I always seem to
have babies in my laundry room it's nice to have well-behaved Dorkings that don't give me away. It's hard being the
chicken nut when everyone else around me isnt.

 

[Kiki]

I'm not selling eggs right now, but will try to find you a breeder who is. I have waiting lists for both chicks & eggs... so of course the girls are not cooperating!

Are you looking specifically for Red? I just ordered 2 dozen Silver Grey from a breeder in Texas. Here's his website: Honey Suckle Farms By this time next year, my goal is to have all 5 of the accepted colors.

Why don't you like the extra toe? Sure makes them easy to spot in the brooder!

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You still around?
@tgrlily